Hey BF,
Glad you had a great time in toronto. Didn't do any shopping this time. Will be going back next month for my BD to shop.This trip was for the super bowl festiv and to see a sick friend. I did run into one of the Det. from law/Ord SVU. He was at the Irish pub party we attended.
I'll e-mail you the info re: Sandra O's new movie, due out aug 2008.
I mean think about it, you have Cristina give this little monolgue about men getting you all strung out and then "vanishing" in the episode "Six Days". the one where George's father dies. Do they honestly think a true Cristina fan who is interested in her growth and development forgot this scene? This is what I mean they clearly don't remember what they write or think that when they reveal these facts they are not important enough to address multiple times by weaving the fact into monumental events that are currently going on the character's life. In that same episode she reveals that her father died. Then in the three part disaster Ferry Boat episode part freaking two we learn from bobble headed Denny of all the "dead but keeps rising again characters" just exactly how her father died, with her witnessing every tragic moment of his drawn out bloody death.
As she is telling Meredith in the oncall room as they lay on the bunk beds/cot whatever, about how men get you all hook and they vanish, Meredith has to remind her that Burke is right there in the hospital and that he has not vanished. But by the end of that episode when she reveals that her father died when she was nine we or at least I realized that she was definitely not just talking about Burke when she mentioned men always getting you hooked and vanishing she was referring to her father. But that still may not have been clear enough for viewers unlike myself who are obsessed and mainly focused on Cristina's development, so it needs to be addressed in an ongoing manner and it is NOT on this dumbass show. With this crucial fact in Cristina's past, her childhood being revealed, I have yet to see these dumbass ass writers connect what I heard and saw in SIX DAYS and the Ferry Boat disaster eppy, with what has just happened to Cristina yet again, a man she became emotionally attached to vanished. She formed an attachment with Burke, enough of an attachment to work had NOT to be selfish, and to try and have a life with him and he up and vanishes. I mean was that not a vanishing act or what, her mother vanished to as fast as Burke did yet they think it's OK to NEVER fucking address how fucked up that looks.
They think it's normal for her mother and Cristina to not bring up the father she lost on her wedding day, a day in a young woman's life where fathers walk them down the aisle. They truly think it's competent writing NOT to have Cristina have scene with her mother after her wedding that never happened, even if it's to show her mother blaming her for the failing nuptuals. And her mother blaming her for the wedding that never happened and Burke disappearing is exactly what I would expect, but they can't have that. They honestly are trying to sell me that little old Mrs. Rubenstein has nothing to do with how her daughter turned out, I swear I see no signs at all that this woman has any inkling that the trauma her daughter suffered at nine years of age has turned her into the emotionally stuggling and troubled young woman her mother and everyone complains about today. Yet the woman acts like she has no clue IMO and that is extremely weird to me and needs to be addressed.
I have come to the conclusion that these writers want to keep Cristina in some corner because if they actually write for SO/Cristina she will steal the show and they can't have that. And she would steal the show, she is simply and interesting character period. The writers need to get over it and just go with it and stop fighting it. find NO other explanation for not knowing and just not writing this character going down any of the avenues we folks here have suggested and other folks who actually give a damn about Cristina outside of being Meredith's best friend have suggested on other boards. The writers are in no way this stupid that they can't see these avenues, they choose not to go down them because it may take away from another character or two they deem should not be overshadowed.
See this is what I'm talking about. How can they not remember form the previous episo. When we here can remember every line detail in any given scene.
I agree with you. We all have been complaining about the same things re: the slaughter of our favorite characters. I have been calm since the strike started. and really not thinking about Greys. But, now that the strike is over. I'm really not looking forward to Grey's coming back. I really wish they would just cancel it. There is no way they are going to get any better. They peaked at the end of season 2. It was all over but the shouting after that. I swear, I'm still stuck on the writers not remembering what they previously wrote. It is unbelievable, just unbelievable. So, is Shonda not only crazy, but deaf and stupid also. She doesn't see anything wrong with the writing? It's amazing, I'm just floored by this travesty.
AND, JJ apparently IS coming on as Cristina's love interest. I believe he's supposed to be from her past (insert roll of the eyes). We had Marlowe and I actually had no problems with the part of Cristina's background he was supposed to be revealing. But what the hell is JJ supposed to do for four episodes, what is it now that he is supposed to reveal.
See this is what I mean, if his role is not to have Cristina deal with the loss of Burke in some way other than just hitting the sheets with this guy, if he's not there to show that he knows something about how she grew up and how she became emotionally stunted, if he can't shed any dept to the character or move her forward then I'm not interested at all. I've already seen how good Cristina is in bed, I've already seen that she has daddy issues and rightly so, and mommy issue and rightly so, and neither of these issues do they address.
Is this another guy coming to humiliate her from her past. Is he one of the many boyfriends she cheated on in the past coming to rub in her face how she got left at the altar? I don't give a shit to see that.
What the hell is his purpose for only four episodes? What?
Hey, Miju
I didn't think he was still coming, because of his deal with J.J. Abrams and his new show. And like you said Just what is the point ? The last thing the fans need is another inconsistence or UNCOMPLETED story line. His story line is not even going to be relevant to what has been going on up to this point. And just what is suppose to happened in 4 episo? Somebody anybody give me a break. I can't believe they are actually going to write this insignficant crap. I'm wondering now does the writing team just write anything and Shonda just signs off on it without reviewing it? Or is the reviewer blind? Why don't they just let the actors review the writing before it is actually going to print. Since the actors know what happened in the previous episos. And they can bring attention to the inconsistences. Wait a minute, didn't Dempsey say last year when the writers were struggling that they did have the actors look at the script and they helped with keeping the storylines believable. Okay, so what happened with that? I know it has to be hard for S.O. to come in and given a script that relates to nothing from the previous week or weeks. How in the heck can you as a creative actor mentally /emotionally stay on your game when you are surrounded by idots???? I'm going to pray for OUR girl.
I had no idea it was this bad. I wonder if the actors have thought about planning a coup? (well all but Diz Izzie) She probably does'nt see anything wrong.They really need to talk to someone way over the heads of the producers there.
And again why exactly are the writers struggling? Don't they work on this show each and every week? I've got an headache now. I'll talk later.
I'm wondering about the writing for the next 5 episo. of this show. How in the world are they (writers) going to produce quality scripts in this short time span. When they left to go on strike they did not have a clue as to what to with Cristina and the other characters story lines were non existent. So, where oh where is all this supposely creative genius coming from? Lord knows Shonda doesn't have it.
The operative word here being QUALITY!!! Then there will be no change. It will be the same crap as before. Not looking forward to april or May, right about now.
Hi gang, Who knows they might have been working from home so that they would be ready to roll once this strike was over they must be in desperate need of the money.
Have you seen how many times we had articles on KH on this site I definitely do not like that woman yhe only picture Iike is in the moving truck. I can't help it but for me she has a vulgar look on her.
Belgian Grey, How are you? Happy to here from you. Your right about that snarl that KH calls a smile. She is such a fraud. Even a blind person can see past her fake sentiment . I am happy that the writers are back to work. Not necessarily for the writing for Greys, but for their financial benefit.
I doubt the writers were working from home. If they can't remember from week to week the scripts they wrote, and they have been out for almost 3 months. Well, We here know they don't have a clue as to what was going on before the strike or what to write about now. These next 4-5 episo should be Very,Very interesting.!!
Ah, JJ aka Pacey is coming for 4 episodes, I guess just like Marlowe, he's there to start some arc for Cristina, but I for the life of me can't guess what it is. I would hope he's there to move her character to the next step forward, but this is Shonda, so moving Cristina back might be more benefitial to her.
To me, I don't think she gives a shit about Cristina outside her connection to Meredith, why I am reading about Cristina helping Meredith through a split with Derek when Meredith spending more than two episodes focusing on Cristina her loss of Burke has yet to happen, is beyond me. And having Cristina say that she does not want to talk about it or that, that is not what she and Meredith do had little to me to do with trying to keep Cristina in character, and more to do with Shonda's lack of interest in delving into Cristina's feelings regarding the loss of Burke. She could care less about dealing with it, so if she uses the excuse that Cristina does not want to open up about it and that is not how she and Meredith do things she can just avoid it and it will all fade away.
Whatever, I see more of the same, I am just dumbfounded as to why part of Cristina up coming storyline includes helping Meredith get over Derek, when I have not see enough of Meredith consoling Cristina. To me, Derek is still alive and in Seattle, so there is still visibly a chance for Meredith to have her happily ever after Rose or no Rose. Burke vanished like a fart in the wind, evil Mama came and cleaned out any signs that he ever existed in Crisitna's life and I'm getting Cristina HELPING Meredith? Please.
How about Meredith seizing the day and going for what she wants and figuring out on her own and SHE being the model for Cristina? But that would never happen cause then Shonda would have to admit that it is Cristina who has worse issues emotionally and it is Cristina who HAS no idea what she wants or what would truly make her happy outside of a scalpel. But it's obvious to me, Meredith knows what she wants personally she's just terrified to reach out and grab and hold on to it and Derek's past lies have not helped her. So, Meredith has more than a headstart when you compare her with Crisitna. Cristina is out of chances with Burke and quite frankly is not sure what chances she wants to take going forward when it comes to her personal life. Yet, I repeat, I am headed toward Cristina helping Meredith move past Derek? WTF?
Hey Miju, How are things with you? I agree with you about Cristina's issues being totally ignored. Everyone here feels the same. We are just so hurt, disillusioned by the cheap writing for Cristina . When, WE ALL KNOW she is the most TALENTED and STRONGEST character in the group. It is just so sickening to watch this TRAVESTY!!! What I don't get is why is Shonda so hell bent on bring back these men in Cristina's past? What is the point? She seems to want to do all she can do to degrade Cristina in some sort of sick way. We don't need the men in Cristina's past showing up. What we need is some QUALITY writing and
some insight to Alex's past., Der's upbringing, and a follow up on the unfinished story of Joe and his partner and the adoption. (among other things) Since she wants to bring in old flames, why not bring one of Mer's ex's? Actually bringing back old flames with nothing to add to the story line is just a weak ploy. That angle tells me you don't know what to write about.
I watched an episo from season 2 this week and another from season 1. I just about didnot recognize the show. This show has just fell off the cliff. The tenderness the characters displayed towards each other the looks they gave each other. Cristina and her antics, this use to be a fun show to watch. (right about now a phrase comes to mind ("YOU CAN'T SEE THE FORREST FOR THE TREES) I have resolved myself to the fact this show will not get any better and that's due to Shonda. Since she reviews and approves the writing she does not see anything wrong with the show. I have come to the conclusion that season 1 and 2
was Shonda at her best. She can not carry a show at it's highest peak for any length of time. She doesn't know how to ride the waves and maintain quality writing at the same time. Like I said, I'm not looking forward to april or May.
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