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Drowning on Dry Land
I just listened to the first podcast, the one from Walking on Water, and there when they were talking about two Merediths they were talking about the reflection of Meredith in one scene (when she first sees the little girl at the crash site). It could be a lot of things, but based on the conversation they were having it seems like it was a literal reflection of the way that Meredith was processing that sight ... part of her, as a doctor, knew she could not stop to take care of the little girl because she had to deal with patients. But another part of her identified with the girl so strongly that she could not help but go to her and take her under her wing. My theory of the moment anyway :).Posted 2/17/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
I am listening to this week's podcast right now, and after listening to it ... Mer is coming back. Not because there are any spoilers or they say that definitively (I am about five minutes in) but because SR & Betsy keep referring to Meredith in the present tense. They are clearly still writing for her somehow and see her and Derek as a couple. So if that is true then she can't be dead.Posted 2/17/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
But as you listen to it ... she may not be dead, but it certainly does not sound like she will be okay. I am thinking coma. Because at certain points they also talk about Derek and what happens to Derek when he realizes he failed at saving Meredith, and watching how he deals with life without her, which is a frightening statement. But combined with the earlier stuff, maybe coma??Posted 2/17/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
She mentions something about how the water is supposed to be thirty below?Posted 2/17/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
Mer's slow sinking was beautiful and painful and crushing in its own way. She has been sinking for a while, it seems, and her monologues often talk about how she finds surgery easier than the day-to-day horrors and stress of being a grown up with her particular set of problems. It is horrible and yet in a way understandable that she would not have the fierceness that it would take to go to the surface. When Izzy was ranting at the end about survival, it was a little shocking -- that kind of bright blonde rock star faith up against Meredith's dark and twisty sinking into the depths of her own thoughts, her own dark waters. She thinks too much, Meredith. She is too aware, and no happiness ever comes from that kind of hyper-awareness. It is a huge contrast, her and Izzie. When Izzie was on the bathroom floor no one doubted that was a temporary state. Every time Meredith lies down, even from season one when she slid down the door holding that coffee cup in her bathrobe, there is a bit of doubt about whether she will get up. It is not good or bad, this contrast, it is just the way they are. Whether she gets up this time ... only one other show has pulled off this kind of tease, and that was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Crazy good, that story line. That Shondra wrote the next episode with a BTVS writer is a good sign. It took me a long time to figure out why the end of the show was so jarring ... not because of Denny, I had read the spoilers (my first time to do that, will not be doing that again - it definitely detracts from the show). It was shocking because there was no monologue. No Meredith to close us out, to guide us along. The GA closings are often very long, several minutes, and this time, nothing. The opening monologue was more than enough I suppose, with its haunting play on the disappearance theme. My only hope is that the little girl was seen through the crowd by her mom, who scooped her up ... she is far from okay, that child, but she is alive and safe physically. Perhaps next week Mer will be somehow alive physically if still far from okay. But if not, then not. Then Burke can be Christina's "person." Then Izzie, finally really alone and at that point also homeless, may be able to wake up and breathe again. And Derek will be able to look at himself and find a bottom to push off of that is not another female ... his sister called it, he needs some time to center himself, and one fishing trip is not enough time to settle a soul. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer a lucid Grey on Grey's Anatomy ... but if we lose her, I will understand it. As for the other characters, GA is one of the best shows at saying so much without saying anything. The way Mark touches Derek's arm. The way Christina slowly melts/sinks into herself when she realizes what is happening. The way Alex's face registers anger and helplessness and a slow boil of ... something, something we and he do not understand yet. Alex will be interesting to watch next week. I never thought I would see the day when I was more interested in what was happening with Alex than with George, but that day is definitely here. Will Alex continue to progress as a person if Mer dies, or will his angry defense mechanisms catch up with him? If they do, that may be when he and Addison get together. He acts out when he is helpless and she is prone to inappropriate and angry sex during times of grief. Some people have commented on how the surgeons do everything around Seattle Grace, and it does seem odd that there are no staff members. No desk clerks. No admission staff. No quality control people. No lawyers. I am okay with this. It is a willing suspension of disbelief on my part. Yes, in another hospital maybe a PR person would have been down in the clinic instead of Alex. But if Seattle Grace had invested in a PR person, then we would not have reaped the rewards of watching Alex in action last night. Quite the contrast from season one, when Dr. Korev would have been stealing patients instead of crawling around the morgue taking pictures in an effort to help bring closure to panicked families. Lots of things are happening, lots of things to discuss. One thing I do know is as much as I appreciate the ferry crash for its brutal nature and its SL catalyst potential ... I will be happy when Grey's regains the intimacy and character-focus we know and love.Posted 2/16/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
On a related note, I just watched the promo for next week for the fourth or fifth time. It is all about Derek and I hope the theory that he will do the voice over is right, because that would be amazing. But I don't know about y'all ... the point in the promo that made my throat catch was when Christina is fiercely saying "Try Again!" It is especially touching because the rest of the promo is moving fast, and in those few seconds they really focus on Christina ... and her hair is all messy there, and she looks so lost and so angry, almost feral. It reminded me of a few episodes ago, when she was talking to Meredith about her dad and saying "My apartment is messy, my locker is messy, but I am not messy," and making that motion in front of her face to emphasize she is talking about her personal appearance. That was a funny scene, but heartbreaking in contrast to the mess she looks in the promo.Posted 2/16/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
I don't think Izzie is in love with George. I think she loves George, but is not in love with him. He is just her best friend, and she strongly believes he made a mistake in marrying Callie. She has always been very protective of him, and she just went through a huge grieving period herself so she knows people do not make rational choices. I am not a huge Izzie fan, but she generally has good intentions. I like Callie more, but I think Callie should not have married George. We do not know much about Callie and her issues yet, but when we discover them hopefully this incredibly illogical decision will make sense from someone who is usually one of the more grounded characters on the show.Posted 2/16/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Drowning on Dry Land
Okay one more thing ... can you tell I could not get on the site last night either?? :) So I apologize for the thought flood today but I have had 24 hours to accumulate thoughts and no where to put them! Bailey was an unsung heart breaker last night. Everyone did a great job but there is so much being written about other characters, and she really got to me in the scenes where they are working on Meredith. She is usually so sure of herself, but when she saw Meredith there she seemed to step back to the first couple of episodes of the season when she was doubting herself and doubting her emotions. She was looking at the Chief almost desperately, like tell me what to do. And he was looking at her back in almost the same way, and I kept thinking about the week before when he told Ellis that if things had been different they could have given Mer a little brother or sister. The Chief does not have his own kids and on the show it was just the night before he said that to Ellis. You can see he is having trouble processing it is Meredith lying there, all lifeless and blue. But back to Bailey. She rarely seems less experienced than the higher ranking doctors but definitely felt younger and less qualified last night. She told Izzie a few episodes ago that she can't be too close to the patients because it effects your ability to work, and then here she is thrust into a situation where she is too close to a patient. Her face looked like she was having trouble concentrating, and she probably was ... thinking about earlier when people were asking her where Meredith was and she did not know. Bailey always says she feels responsible for her interns, and now one is right in front of her literally dead after she put her in a situation she knew the interns were not fully prepared to handle. So when Addison arrives and steps in, Bailey does not muscle her away as usually, instead she just steps back. It is so subtle and powerful the way they do things like that on this show. Addison also transformed at the end, she was kind of lost the last couple of episodes but she really stepped up here. It is not surprising that Addison is so strong in this situation because she likes Meredith but she does not love her. Everyone else feels so strongly about her it is like they cannot think as well as they would normally.Posted 2/16/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Sarah Singing
I don't know why, but ever since Sara Ramirez has joined the cast I want them to let her sing something! At a party or a karoke bar or SOMETHING, but apparently the girl has pipes and it is a shame we don't get to hear them!Posted 2/15/2007 1:00:00 AM # -
Who dies?
It is good to know they also said "major character" when George's dad died. Not to say he is not major in terms of emotional impact, but if the person does not appear in cast or publicity photos they may not be quite so major in the eyes of the fans. I would classify George's dad more as "recurring." But then again I guess that does not sound quite as gossip-worthy!Posted 2/13/2007 1:00:00 AM #
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