miju Forum Posts (Page 3)

  1. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    She does not get it, everyone who post on these boards are saying the same thing overall, and that is, the show needs to stop jumping ahead. It is not OK to move on and pretend that monumental things have not happened.

     

    They keep jumping all around and I need to see characters work out issues and I'm not seeing that at all.

     

    All I do is watch the show asking the same freaking question each episode and that is:

     

    "Wait a minute, what the hell happened to..........?"

     

    Because there is not connection from one episode to the next, the writers seem to forget, or don't give a shit, or are simply too lazy to to do the research on what charcters have said and done before so they don't look incompetent, so I'm left always asking the above question while watching this show.

     

    Even SO said on GMA, but of course in the classies way possible that she does have to remind the writers of Cristina's dialogue in the past when she sees something the script that does not add up. But she's so classy that she added, that she thought it must be very hard for these wrtiers to keep track of all these storylines for each character.  Gotta love "THE OH", gotta love her, cause I'm not making any excuses for them. I might have been able to cut them some slack if at least one character was getting good, writing, but no storyline is good, shit, they are not even storylines to me, they're like skits with a lot of holes.  It's like I can't say, well at least this character has a good storyline so that must be why they're slacking on the rest, no. They are just lazy in raking in money for incompetence.

    Do the fucking research so that characters development flows, they have it all on tape just in case they've thrown out the scripts. Shit, go buy the DVD's we did and review them because THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR ALL THE HOLES IN THE WRITING. Have the interns that read the website boards go through the scripts and DVD's for the dialogue details that they can't exactly recall, let them do the fact checking, but cut the insulting swiss cheese writing, cause the viewers watch the show. We know when shit is off and does not make sense and I personally find it insulting.

     

    Posted 2/10/2008 3:02:27 PM #
  2. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    Also,my perception of the last episode was that Cristina was actually going to start questioning whether being a renowned heart surgeon was all she truly wanted, FIRST AND FOREMOST out of life, based on her scenes with Tuck in that OR and based on Izzie's jealous rantings of yet again wanting something that she "THINKS" someone else has.

     

    I have thinks in quotation marks because as Izzie waxed on about how sure Cristina is of what she wants, all I kept thinking to myself is it's just the opposite.  In otherwords, every word that came out of Izzie's mouth regarding who she thinks Cristina is robot and all, sure of what she wants, I just thought of the opposite cause Izzie never knows what the fuck she's talking about and she definitely has NO idea of who Cristina is.

    Cristina is not a robot, and that is clear to only like one person and that is Meredith and I guess you'd say Lexie cause the camera made sure we saw her reaction to Cristina holding Tucks hand.And I have never felt that Cristina was this young woman who was so sure of herself, to me it's all a front. BECAUSE for me there is  no way you can be sure if you are not in tune with all of your emotions if you have only immersed yourself in a life of the technical never really having any meaningful relationships until your first year of a surgical internship how the hell could you be so SURE of what you truly want out of life? Never bought this Cristina is oh so strong and sure, please. So we'll see if this is actually the avenue they take, because a show worth a damn who had competent writers would be going here.

    I'm waiting for the show to live up to the chorus of it's theme song:

    "Nobody knows where you might end up, nobody knows....."

     

    I expected the show to keep me interested because I expected in the end that none of the main five would end up where they had planned to, especially the interns like Cristina, Alex and Izzie who seemed so set on what they wanted. Cristina, she ONLY wants to surgery, heart surgeries. Alex, he only wants plastics and a blonde with big boobs.  Izzie she wants a damn fantasy prince charming.

     

    From what I saw in the last episode Izzie might actually start taking cardio seriously and not just as some means of sticking it to Cristina.

     

    But again, I have no faith that I could get half way decent writing and character direction like this so, not excited about the return of the show, I dread it....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Posted 2/10/2008 2:40:57 PM #
  3. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    I hear you Gloria and even moreso I WILL NEVER LET GO OF BURKE AND CRISTINA IF THEY DO NOT ADDRESS IT, IF THEY DO NOT LET CRISTINA DEAL WITH IT.  They gave Denny and Izzie more weight after that bobble head's death, but Cristina and Burke get nada cause Shonda feels they were not the real deal. Sorry this is local television and it ain't who she feels is the real deal, that was not the perception of the fans of this couple so you cannot end a relationship like that, that we have been watching for three years with Mrs. Burke half-ass words of wisdom and her stripping the apartment that Cristina shared with Burke dry of any signs of him. I don't think so. I have no idea what they have in store for Cristina but once again I have lost all intererst in ABC programming. I can't evern pay attention to LOST, because I'm not sure I want Greys to ever come back on if respect and weight is NEVER given to what Burke meant to Cristina.

    If all I am going to see Cristina do is listen to Meredith's woes on her on/off relationship with Derek then I'll be wishing for the strike to resume. Not interested and I am happy that JJ is no longer scheduled because I am not interested in Cristina dealing wih any love interest unless that interest leads her to deal with unresolved feelings regarding her relationship with Burke and even moreso her childhood.

    Sorry Shonda, but her childhood  is what causes her to seek out the men she has, it is what causes her to be driven, which is good, but driven to a fault as she has used men in the past, but that stopped as she fell in love with Burke. Shonda thinks she can just make Cristina some user/evil incarnate, robot and act like that is par for the course and has NOTHING to do with her childhood? Yeah, sell bullshit elsewhere.

     

     

    Posted 2/10/2008 2:01:30 PM #
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    cristina is not getting any storylines. its as if they dont know what do to with her since burke left. And I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS AT ALL. I really can't get why they do not know what to do with this character, the only thing I have ever come up with is that one, Shonda does NOT see this character the way I do and two, she does not care about the character. Wait till Joshua Jackson arrives, Shonda is intent on getting him into Cristina's bed, is that all that idiot is intent on. I don't care to see anyone in Cristina's bed if it's just going to be about sex and games, and I feel this is all in the end, Shonda wants to see Cristina do. Now in this past episode it appeared like all the characters were at a crossroads but do you honestly believe we will see writing to seriously address this when and if this show ever resumes? HELL NO, I will be tortured yet again with Izzie and my dear Cristina fighting over Joshua Jackson's character because that is all juvenile, talentless Shonda can think of. He'll be the new so called hot doctor and she'll just have to have women fighting over him and she'll just have to use him to continue the fighting or snipiness between Cristina and Izzie. He's supposed to be for Cristina but I'll be in shock if Izzie won't have some play in it. Cristina CANNOT have anything just for herself. I love Meredith but it annoyed me to know end that most of the dialogue regarding who was most affected by Burke leaving Crisitna at the altar was focused on Meredith. WTF?! SERIOUSLY? I don't need to hear Derek talking about how Cristina getting left at the altar affects Meredith, it was ridiculous to me, just infuriating. I have no doubt that Cristina/ SO will NEVER get any storyline without some other female character who Shonda thinks needs all the attention all the time honing in on it. I am happy they are on strike and may it go on indefinitely if CRAP continues to end up on the writers pages for Cristina. I don't care for this show to ever return if this is what they are going to do with Cristina. She is the one who should be having the storyline with the baby, I said once, twice and will continue to say it. I have no idea what angle they are going to play with this Joshua Jackson guy but I have no doubt with Shonda at the helm it won't have any depth to it.
    Posted 1/12/2008 1:00:00 AM #
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    "that’s one of their ploys believe me it will not work. I thought Blair Underwood was coming to Dirty,Sexy Money. I see ABC is still running around trying to add people of color to their shows. They are pathetic. Don’t get me wrong, I love Blair, it’s just the circumstances I dislike." Yep they still are, just as long as the people of color don't overshadow their caucasian leads on these shows they are fine with it. Look I like EP, Meredith is Ok with me most of the time, but to me Cristina/SO is a scene stealer, she's just that good and no one can make me believe that she was not seen as a "threat" to TPTB when she started to overshadow. It does not matter what you give her she will shine, so the only way to keep her down is to not give her much of anything otherwise she will overshadow your lead. That is exactly what they've done. ABC had a hand in it all, they were fine with Burke and Cristina but that couple gained too much ground and ABC AND Shonda did not like that at all, Shonda being set on Mer/Der being the love of all time AND the only BIG love on her show right along with ABC and when they sabatoged that, Gizzie was her next big love and she actually believes this as I mentioned in my earlier post. Fact of the matter is SO is not an advertisers dream, not only does she not look like what UGLYWOOD wants her to look like, she is also NOT interested in selling a damn thing, she is an actress, that's it, that's ALL she wants to do, so they are not going to push her to the forefront because she is not willing to compromise her way of doing things in this business for years just cause ABC and UGLYWOOD are a bunch of whores. But this entire fiasco has CONspiracy written all over it and ABC is the most racist station in my experience how do I know? Well, I know that for years I've turned to their station and had to turn the channel because yet again I don't see myself represented in their programing or I see some stereotype of people from my ethnic group if they put one of us on their shows as some "token". They are not the only racist station but they are by far in my opinion the WORST. They truly stand out as the most ignorant racist, as well as sexist network and to think, they are owned by Disney. I can't wait till Audra McDonald starts to overshadow Kate Walsh, Audra McDonald is supposed to be what Sandra Oh is on Greys. She's suppose to be the "ace" so to speak, the supporting character to the lead but with BIG enough screen presence to carry a lot of the weight and charisma on the show. But the minute her ass gets to big and she starts to forget her place, no fault of her own of course, she's just that charming IMO, she can't help it. I'm not saying that Kate Walsh is not charming, oh she is, cause she made Addy a fan favorite and Addy was brought on initially like some kind of devil in carnate, a witch. So Kate Walsh has charm, but watch, just watch. Well maybe it won't happen on this show BECAUSE unlike PP, on Grey's Shonda actually identifies with Meredith and "damsel's in distress" like Izzie that I believe she is actually writing herself, especially with the character of Izzie who NEVER pays for anything. But I may be wrong on PP cause Shonda does not seem to have an unhealthy habit of idenitfying with those women like she does Meredith and Izzie on Greys so she won't end up JUST making Audra McDonald's character some sorry side kick who can't have a life of her own and issues of her own that need to be dealt with. She will continue to spread the wealth of storyline and dialogue amongst ALL the women and men even, on that show. Not only that, I think she loaded PP with more than one ace in the hole, Amy Brennamen(not sure of the spelling) is a force as well, I think she's an ace too. I'd actually invest in this show if it were one, on another netword and two, under the guide of another head writer. Sorry, but Greys was once great, because the talented actors had good writing and that all went to pot, so no way will I set myself up to see the likes of Audra McDonald and Amy Brennemen be wasted under Shonda's incompetent, mostly inconsistent pen, no way.
    Posted 12/21/2007 1:00:00 AM #
  6. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    Also, I have NO idea what they are going to do with Cristina, even though I would have NO problems figuring out where to take her if I were writing and the direction would not have a thing to do with a love interest. I just cannot see this character falling in love with anyone else as she did with Burke, she was willing to sacrafice enough to give into something she really did not believe in or think was necessary to share her life with him. Sorry, but that is SO never going to happen with anyone else, and I won't buy it if they try to sell it. That was Cristina's one great love and she lost it, so once again, either bring in her other family members and have her work out issues in her past or give her a baby who will actually end up being the number one "love of her life" in a different way. Like just when she thought she would only be married to her job here comes along a little person to remind her that what she just went through, a year of her life accoring to Shonda's time frame, it will remain 2 1/2 to 3 years in my time frame which by the way is the real life time frame of how long we've been following these characters- but this child will validate that she did not just waste a year of her life, that there was real "love". Cause right now, especially after Burke's mother's visit I can't believe that Cristina, will ever believe that Burke did love her. I mean she's a little scammer, that's who she was in her past so I mean she must be bolded over thinking that Burke is the greatest scammer she's come across since well, herself. She must be thinking how the hell did he do it, I mean she cannot be thinking that he ever loved her. His mother and her words is her last memory of Burke and what happened between them and his mother came off colder than folks seem to think Cristina is, to me, Cristina has NEVER been cold hearted. I mean she will never have closure, I believe that is the word Shonda used but the bitch clearly thinks she can just say a character will never have closure and that's it, story over, end of their suffering or her focusing on it, someone who's never been in love, gets left, has no closure and I am to find her tending to the likes of Lexie entertaining or even remmotely half-way decent writing? Yeah, OK,sell it somewhere else. I have no interest in seeing Cristina take care of anyone else except a baby of her own, herself and when I say herself I don't mean just her career either, her mother as they try to work out their issues, BUT not Meredith Grey's sister nor Meredith at the moment, because it DID NOT wash with me having Meredith tell Derek that she WANTS to take care of Cristina but you don't take care of Cristina, BULLSHIT Shonda. It did not wash with me that they had Cristina telling Meredith that she did NOT want to be taken care of, sorry, yes she does not want to be coddled but to me that dialogue was ALL put in place so that Shonda and ABC could wash their hands of Cristina's devastation of Burke leaving her, because THOSE asses are the ones who cannot separate the character of Burke from the actor. So they want to wash all signs of him an how monumental he was in Cristina's life. Sorry, not going to fly. If I hear Cristina tell Derek again that she is taking care of Meredith instead of someone continuing to talk about Cristina and trying to take care of her or how SHE does NOT seem to be reacting to Burke leaving her I am going to f-ing hurl.
    Posted 12/21/2007 1:00:00 AM #
  7. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    This is Shonda we are talking about. If she put out an episode without Cristina and included everyone else than I’d have to take that as a slap in the face to ALL THE CRISTINA/BURKE FANS. And this would be strange to you Gloria? Cause it would not be strange nor surprising to me in the least if she did anything to insult or not take into consideration the love fans of this couple. It would not surprise me at all, cause if she does not think a couple belongs together then that is all that matters, vs. if she does believe they do belong together, that it also ALL that matter, does Gizzie ring a bell. The only reason Gizzie is ending is because ABC stepped in I'd bet my farm on it if I had one, and that little comment from Gizzie about how it is the wrong time and not their chemistry is all Shonda and her sticking to her guns that SHE believes Gizzie belongs together. The woman has NEVER supported Burke and Cristina, NEVER, it is not where she wanted Cristina's story to go and Burke before IW was cast was not even supposed to be a factor past season one with the original actor who was supposed to play him. But she is most disrespectful to the fans of this pairing, she does not get, that it's not OK to tell us how this couple did not belong together because they were so unhealthy and Burke really did not love the real Cristina. She honestly thinks cause she says it, somehow that is how we'll see it. She should just STFU and write her crap if she's going to do what she's going to do, but don't add insult to injury and talk about it as if it was meant to be and the only avenue the storyline could have gone because she perceives the characters in her mind a certain way. This is where her ego comes into to play and it also shows how crappy a writer she is, cause if you listen to her on the podcast or read a blog of her, you'll be reading or listening along, well I will, and she's spewing her bullshit and I'm like OK, yeah you thought you wrote it that way, but that's sure as hell not how I saw it, that was not my perception. So her writing is never strong enough to even persuade me even remotely toward the middle of the line of her way of thinking and that's a bad writer. It would be fine if this were a novel, but on screen it's just bad writing because it does not get me to think as much as it frustrates me and takes the joy out of watching. She does not get that, that behavior and commentary from her on this couple is NOT how the fans saw them and she gives no respect for that and that's insulting. Yes, she sees the couple one way but it's not OK for her to try and manipulate us or have a nasty enough ego to actually tell us what or how we should see characters and pairings and this is what she does at every turn. The woman acts like she loathes fans of Burke, fans of Cristina and most of all fans of the pairing. At least that is what her writing tells me. She also has the nastiest ego, ego is fine, I like it especially in women, but when it messes with the direction of the character I'm invested in I don't care. Her ego is nasty enough to actually put out an episode without Cristina and not comment on it cause she does not feel the need to explain herself let alone to fans of Cristina. Have you ever listened to her podcast? The woman has said like two words in four years that were supportive of the pairing and supportive of Cristina the individual character. Heck Betsy Beers has said a few more words than Shonda in support of Cristina. She hates the character because she originally just wanted her to be some friend of Meredith and that was all and to pretty much not have ANY storyline except listening to Meredith. But ABC needed some extra seasons and that is why they brought in Addy and they went with Bang seeing that IW and SO had chemistry. But that was NOT the original plan at all. Now she thinks she can put Cristina right back where she orginally wanted her and I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SHONDA'S CRISTINA, SHE DOES NOT EXIST. Now if Shonda would just get that I'd be a happy watcher of this show again, Cristina became SO's character and she put a stamp on the character, and included things that Shonda never intended to include. But now that Shonda has "burned it all down" (insert me rolling my eyes), she thinks she can take folks back to the vibe of season one, yeah, sorry, you CANNOT go back. Wait, you can go back, but IT SHOULD ONLY be to learn from the past, to correct the wrongs from the past if possible, to find a sense of peace so that you can move on DUMBASS SHONDA. UGH, she's nauseating, her writing that is, just horrid it's not even good creative, character driven writing by IVY League standards, and Ivy League school is exactly where she spent her undegraduate years. Speaking of pasts, I would like to go back further into Cristina's rather than watch her coddle Lexie in another freaking episode, or try to get Meredith to dance so that they can get their minds off their troubles, while I get saturated with precious airtime being used on Gizzie. AND, one last bitch, if I hear Cristina referred to again as kickass or a survivor, I am going to f-ing hurl. They have that BS spewed out in the dialogue just to give themselves a freaking pass, so as NEVER to actually delve into Cristina's issue and vulnerabilities to have her deal with them and I am sick and tired of it, it's total bullshit and this is season four already. She's not kickass, THAT's MY FACT, MY PERCEPTION and I love the character enough and am interested enough in her growth, happiness and well being to admit that. I don't care if she EVER utters a funny line again for freaking comic relief on this lousy show, I want her issues dealt with and I don't give a you know who how they arrange that. Their the damn "gifted" writers of the supposed #1 drama on t.v., figure it the hell out.Get to work if this strike EVER ends and figure out how to get an emotional trouble Cristina where she needs to be. To me a kickass woman, is not only efficient at her job and takes no prisoners, BUT even more importantly she is honest and in touch with her emotions and know she has issues but does not sit on them and let them contiue to stunt her, hell they just had Cristina say to Meredith something about "knowing you issues and dealing with them are two entirely different things". I found this line out of Cristina's mouth to be a crock by the way, and just the writers once again caring more about Meredith than they do my Cristina as to have her utter something so introspective, when I know damn well she has grown but STILL is a far cry from uttering such introspective, mature, intouch with your feelings kind of advice. But they had her say it cause they wanted it to be said so Meredith could hear it and Meredith could not possible come up with this conclusion YET I am to buy Cristina coming up with it?! F-ing insulting asssholes these writiers. I'm just sick of them not truly caring about the well being of this character in any way, it's all about her onliners and them bullshitting that kickass line to describe her (insert me rolling my eyes once again), I just don't buy any of it and it is NOT how I see Cristina at all.
    Posted 12/19/2007 1:00:00 AM #
  8. Forever friends of Burke & Cristina

    Hi Burktina Forever, all I know is that I keep reading about who is supposed to be in this episode an what is to be covered and I see NOTHING at all on our Cristina. I even see Hahn covered in this episode and she just arrived on this canvas, but nothing on Cristina. This is the eppy where they were foolishy going to bring on that Joshua actor guy who was supposed to be playing some guy from her past that she was supposed to rebound with, thankfully he is not coming, but clearly the fact that he was on his way to begin with is horrid as they STILL do not know how to write worth a damn for this character or for this show any longer.
    Posted 12/18/2007 1:00:00 AM #
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    Is Cristina even in the next and final episode of the season? We know Bailey is narrating, there of course will still be focus on Gizzie, with Callie and George's mother is coming. They'll be stuff on Derek/Mer Der/Rose, Mer/Lexie. I don't think she's in the next episode, I swear I don't. I keep reading spoilers, sides I see every character pretty much but no Cristina.
    Posted 12/17/2007 1:00:00 AM #
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    "Miju: In her review of the episo. She said she said Cristina having an annoying hissy fit because Bailey pulled her off of Hahn’s cardo service to help with the white supremacist ( whatever) I just wanted her to know that she does not know this character.And that she is not a Cristina/Burke fan so she does not get the character or even see the talent that SO puts into this character each and every week." Thanks Gloria for explaining. I guess this columnist is entitled to her own opinion, even if it's dumb. I know I saw Cristina doing her job, how about you. AND where I come from a hissy fit sure as hell does not look like Cristina's reaction. If she was having a real hissy fit her ass would have been sent home or maybe fired for the day and she sure as hell would not have been able to perform her duties as efficiently as she did in the last episode if she were truly throwing a hissy fit, asswipe Armstrong.
    Posted 12/11/2007 1:00:00 AM #
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