" Isiah was full on jealous about Patrick Dempsey having more stories and screentime than him. Isiah auditioned for Derek and Patrick got it, and it's a well-known fact IW always hated PD for it and was terribly jealous".
Rob Lowe supposed to play Derek in the first place. I prefer Rob Lowe than PD as the matter of fact. IW=most annoying than George. I'm glad no more George and Burke. Can't wait for next season.
Janice Says:
July 28th, 2009 8:27 AM
Goodbye TR and yarn and boring George. I'm totally agree with Luke. The show was great w/o George last season.
mcsteamy1995 Says:
July 28th, 2009 7:12 AM
i hope you will be happy.
i will miss you, you where one of my favorites /;.
but i just want to say; you have open my eyes for everything, inside you always will be the best!
Luke Says:
July 28th, 2009 3:37 AM
No need more air time for George. This character is no more needed in Grey's. It's a right decision to end this yarn character. George is the easiest to sway among the interns while he always thinks that his heart is in the right place. Every dicision he has made is in impulsive immotional reaction. I don't like him on the show. I'm glad. No more George.
jen Says:
July 28th, 2009 2:07 AM
he wants to leave let him leave...if he stayed he would have gotten more air time seeing that his character was hurt. just like KH got more air time after she bitched and moaned that she didn't like her story line the 4th season. she went through the same thing. If TR wants to do what he did before he got on grey's then i wish him the best of luck...but come on who can honestly say they know who he was before he was george???? if i got paid to do what he does i'd shut up and do my work...14 million for a few minutes of air time and people still know who i am.
after this we will not hear a thing from him, he's gointg to fall in the background somewhere just like isaiah washington. have we heard from him after grey's? yes he did the show on nbc but how long did that last?? TR messed up and i bet anything he will regret his decision of leaving. KH has..she wants to stay now. they should all just stick to the end theres just two more seasons to go. george would have had a hard time after what happened but then they could have gave him a storyline after that...maybe he gets another STD from a different nurse i don't know. i just think he made a big mistake. this is my opinion that's all. i know that there are a lot of TR and KH fans but those two together are annoying and more annoying there heads have gotten to big.
Yeah, I wish that TR would seriously reconsider for that episode, although I think it's a little too late. :(
Sabrina Says:
July 27th, 2009 11:15 PM
She didn't. They even ask her why she didn't fight at all to get him to stay and she said he had made up his mind. That is such a cop out.
I did read the article you mentioned. She wanted to show how George died and how he got hit by a bus. Does she think we George fand wanted him to die and to see him die?
We didn't want ehr to see write for him AFTER his death. We wanted her to write for him when he was alive.
So even if TR said he would never come back and even if he never did, they could still have kept George alive like they did Burke.
They are not bringing back IW ever and Burke is still alive.
After everything George went through, all the hell, he deserved a happy ending, TR coming back for visits or not.
Izzie or some other could have given us news once in a while. Besides, people change their midns all the time and he might have come back one day.
Now he never can.
That's what makes me mad.
Alex and Izzie are so predictable. The good girl going with the bad guy, yawn.
I agree with the person who said Shonda didn't like AI. I never got the impression she did.
She wrote Gizzie as a love story. She never wrote Addek as one.
I have been lurking in a few boards and never really met any Addek fans but that doesn't mean anything. I do know several sites with big GI fanbases.
I do think Shonda never l,oved Addek and always emant for MerDer to happen but with Gizzie, she gushed so much about them and their love, I really think she let the haters influenced her, which is a shame as they ahd many fans.
I don't think I'll be watching much.
As a George and Gizzie fan, Shonda has let me down too much.
@anuflas - What a coincidence, I just read the whole article that was in EW and I can see both sides now, although I still don't think Shonda did ANYTHING to even TRY to get him to stay. Sounds like this whole thing has been brewing for a long time (on both sides) and its just a shame it had to come to this.
Therefore, I wish T.R. the very best and will mourn and miss him!
Haha. Yes I did miss those IW moments. Thankfully. He annoys the hell out me anyway. However, if you noticed, it's very small moments that not even huge blogs (and I follow celebrity gossip blogs A LOT) bothered to write about it. That's what I meant. If you keep looking, you'll obviously find something about IW but they are non important. IW is irrelevant to GA. I think that using him as the excuse of TR exiting GA is actually irrelevant.
As for Addek and Gizzie, in this blog maybe not, but I saw in several other blogs a HUGE fan base for Addek. They also got robbed. Their relatioships may not be 100% alike but the issue of being erased from the map was.
Slexie? One word: Ew. Mark belongs with Callie. It's like the writers are trying for MerDer 2.0. by switching roles. I honestly don't think that one will last. Although I don't know why that came here.
Alex and Izzie...eh, like I said, from the moment that Alex called Izzie Dr. Model and Izzie had the locker room meltdown, I knew where this was going. It was the original plan from the start. Plans change. I do believe that Izzie doesn't love Alex the way Alex loves her. I honestly lost interest when Izzie started the ghost sex. So I don't have a real opinion on that.
As for ABC, that's my point. There wasn't any indication of anything! We don't know that. I can't tell you that yeah, ABC let him go like that of a $14 million contract, until ABC's president says publicly that they did. I don't buy that. If Shonda didn't listen...as far as I'm concerned, Rob Corn and Betsey Beers are also exec. producers. They also have a say.
Now I just want to let something clear: Even though I'm standing up for Shonda here, this is the woman that married my two favorite characters with a post it on a hospital locker room (I was ok with the meaning of it and the whole "wedding", really, if it had happen OUTSIDE the hospital) and that wants Big Sloan with Little Grey. I'm not leaving her out of the blame here. She has disappointed before but I have learned (the bad way) to always see the two sides. I'm trying to be impartial here although it doesn't seem to matter. :)
@ wannabeMer, rumor had it that Shonda did offer TR at least for the first episode of S.6. (if you go to ew.com, the first episode synopsis of George's story is there) to kinda see George's last day. TR refused to do so. I think Shonda decided to kill him once TR said he didn't want to come back for guest episodes (which would've been a much better solution if you ask me...)
Michelle Says:
July 27th, 2009 7:32 PM
I agree Sylvie. ABC said Shonda hadn't decided whether to kill George or not after the finale and she would do what the fans wanted. It now seems she planned to kill George the moment he told her he was leaving in December. She flat out lied to us. I haven't seen one person who wanted George to die. Not one. I saw all the polls, all the sites and everyone begged Shonda not to kill him.
Even the day before it was confirmed George had died, Krista said in TV Guide they hadn't decided yet. Now Shonda said in EW they had the moment he wsaid he quit.
They LIED.
I'm a MerDer fan and a George (Gizzie) fan and they keep lying to me.
TR is right. You can't believe a word she says.
I loved George. Why would she kill him and not let him be a hero in the army? Didn't George got through enough heartache in the five years he was on the show? why kill him like that?
Wow Sylvie, interesting commentary. I have to agree with you on some of your points. Especially at the end when you said Shonda is "the one who decided to kill George. If she really loved George, she would have kept the door open and let TR visit once in a while in the future not kill him off by literally throwing him under the bus."
She knows how much MOST fans love him, so why, why, WHY would she cut off all chances of him even making a guest appearance (which would have been a perfect compromise between the two of them in MY opinion). So it certainly does sound like SHE purposely phased him out and didn't even try to talk him out of leaving. Which again (in MY opinion) is NOT a good move for the show! What was/is she thinking???
Sylvie Says:
July 27th, 2009 6:00 PM
IW was never heard from again. Really? Because you could have fooled me when for months, he appeared on tlak show after talk show bashing TR and calling him an evil Macchiaveli who had planned the whole thing and had come out to get attention. Yet again Shonda didn't say a word in his defence.
You also must have missed when ET intervied IW a few months ago about TR leaving, and he said with a huge nasty smile on his face George wasn't needed anymore. This was when the rumors had just started, back in about January. It's funny because TR leaving had not been confirmed and he seemed certain he was leaving. Did Shonda call her best buddy to tell him she had finally made life so mierable for TR he was leaving?
Shonda quite clearly said in one of the Grey matter blog that ALLL George and Izzie's previous relationships had been to lead them to their one REAL relationship, the one together.
She said they were true love and soulmates. She said she had planned them from day 1. I remember. The haters were quite livid about it and the fact she kept gushing about Gizzie being true love.
In fact in an article with the official GA magazine, they said that her relationship with Alex was mainly based on sex, that they weren't mean to be and that Alex loved Izzie a lot mroe than she did him.
Then suddenly by the time they break up, they were never in love and she and Alex were meant to be. She changed her dialogue completely. Even the people on TWOP think she meant for Gizzie to end up together and got scared of the haters. It's funny because when Mexie got just as much hate and a lot less love, she fought against the haters. I guess TR coming out made him different than Eric who is straight and everything.
Are you realloy comparing to Addek? Unreal. Derek never did a big love declaration to Addison and it was always obvious he wasn't into her but into Mer.
Izzie told George she was sure in her love she was in love with him. They wrote them as completely, madly and totally in love. Izzie called him her peni fish, saying she had him in her system. Remind me when Derek ever acted like Addison had that effect on her?
I don't believe Shonda likes AI. She just believes that is what the fans want.
I also know Addek have fans, but they don't have a third as many fans as Gizzie had. A lot of people watched solely for Gizzie and stopped when they broke up. I don't know one person who quit watching when Addek didn't work out.
It's not even close. In numerous polls, Gizzie was named second favorite couple only after MerDer. Addek never had close to any fans.
Where do you get the idea TR backed out easily? He has been going to her since she had him have the affair (which even as a Gizzie fan, I hated)and in his own words, he learned to believe he couldn't believe a word she told him about George.
That is what he said, word for word. That in the last five years, he elarned she wouldn't tell him the truth about George. That tells me he did go to her time after time since the show started only to be lied to.
Shonda was asked why she didn't fight for him to stay, and she said he had made up his mind. What in this is not clear? She said herself she didn't try to change his mind.
There is no indication at all ABC fought for him. If that had happened, it would have been mentioned. Shonda said she immediately let him go without even talking to him or explaning why his character had had nothing to do in the last two seasons and had vanished the last season.
Why should he stay? The message was clear. He was no longer wanted by her there. He was by the fans, but Shonda thought by erasing him all season, the fans would get over it and forget George.
Of course it didn't happen which is why she is now trying to make him the bad guy.
I'm not blaming you.
This is your opinion, but Shonda is the one ruining the show.
She's also the one who decided to kill George. If she really loved George, she would have kept the door open and let TR visit once i n a while in the future not kill him off by literally throwing him under the bus.
I could argue she has been thowing him under the bus since IW insulted him.
In the article it never said that Shonda didn't put up a fight, and if she didn't (this is an assumption), I'm sure as hell that ABC did. They are the bosses of Shonda. TR isn't going to put himself in the bad place. It would be ridiculous. This is HIS side. I haven't seen ABC's statement saying that yeah, they didn't bother. Again, this is MY interpretation of the article.
I'm trying to see both sides here because I do find unfair the constant bashing to Shonda. She doesn't lie but she doesn't tell the complete truth. She leaves some stuff out in order to keep us on the edge (which by the way, she does it really well). However, TR made a decision and if he says it was the right one for him, then ok. Cool, I hope he does well, but I do find the issue of backing out so easily.
If he was so determined to leave from the beginning, I can see Shonda's point of letting him go and putting him in the background as well as TR's fed up attitude with her. Although it seems unlikely.
I'm not commenting on the Gizzie relationship because just as you are mad on it, there are fans mad that Addek ended. Even when from the beginning, it was very well known that Derek was going to end up with Meredith and Izzie with Alex. That is up to everyone's own opinions about it. The storyline was already structure by S1/S2.
I also believe that the IW incident, while disgusting, a little overused. IW got his punishment and since then, we've never heard from him again (thank God). I can't honestly say that Shonda or TR are so bitter about it that they couldn't let it past them to have a professional relationship (ok, outside of workplace if they choose not to, whatever).
PD and TR's status as main and supporting may matter more to ABC than to Shonda or the writers. I still believe that he could've said something. I'm not saying change the storyline entirely but at least some actions he didn't agree with (like the 'fetch' thing).
And again, this is my interpretation of the article. You don't have to agree with me, I'm not looking for that. Just stating my opinion as we all are.
kim Says:
July 27th, 2009 3:57 PM
Why are we attacking other peoples opinions...just because you don't agree, you do not have to get all defensive. It is just a show.
Manny Says:
July 27th, 2009 3:41 PM
I woudn't miss Alex and Izzie at all if they left. Not the Izzie with Alex at least.
Bailey? I used to love her but she has gotten way over the top the last two seasons.
I saw season 5 with no George. It sucked. It had no heart, no soul, nothing.
A lot of us see George as the heart and soul of the show.
He's the character most fans relate to. If you think the show won't suffer without George, I think you're delusional.
Whather you like him or not, the truth is most people do.
Maxie Says:
July 27th, 2009 3:38 PM
Overit, you need to respect the fact that many of us watch for George and he's our favorite character. Alex and Izzie? Huge huge ywan. Own and Cristina? Ugh.
George and Izzie were the best couple and George was why I watch.
I'm the opposite of you. This year, I always found myself wondering when George would show up because the rest of the show was so boring.
George has a lot of fans, deal with it. And yes, I watch the smae show you do.
patrasfan Says:
July 27th, 2009 1:53 PM
overit
We watch the same show.
My favourite character is George. At least was.
I think Mark and Lexie are the most boring couple in the history of television.
I think that Alex-Izzie are also boring. The hot body with the model? Wow!!!
This is my opinion.
And You have to respect that some of us love George's character. At least the George of the first 3 seasons.
I wish him all the best.
overit Says:
July 27th, 2009 1:05 PM
Do you people watch the same show that I do? I mean news og George leaving is HUGE because he is the first main character to actually quit on his own. However, I have to say that George has NEVER been my favorite character. I have been an avid watcher since "A Hard Day's Night" and I have always found George to be a bit whiny and even annoying at times. I often found myself waiting for his storyline to be over so we could get to what was next. Sorry, but that is just my opinion. As far as T.R. Knight goes, I really don't know that much about him as a person...so I wish him the best of luck. I really don't think that Grey's is going to suffer any as a result of his leaving. If anything, it will give more screentime to MerDer, Mexie, McArmy and Cristina, Alex and Izzie, and Bailey. THOSE are the characters that the show would really struggle without. Can't wait for September!!!!
Carrie Says:
July 27th, 2009 11:58 AM
TR looks so amazingly hot there. I bought the mag just fro him and now I feel all dirty because I freaking hate Aussiello.
I love the interview. It makes me realize just how wodnerful TR is. He refused to be disrespected and wasted any longer.
I'll miss George and Gizzie. TR and Katie were so good together. Gizzie was the hottest, sweetest couple ever.
Some cute photos from thsi weekend with TR and Katie:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=07&evt=heigl-knight&pic=katherine-heigl-tr-knight-ugly-weekend-06.jpg
I hope the mods post them.
Jennifer Says:
July 27th, 2009 10:54 AM
I bought the mag and got the same feeling too. That he fought and fought but Shonda never gave him anything in return. She was too busy for him. That makes me so angry.
I can't believe she admits to not even trying to get him to stay. She just said ok, and then jumped into writing his death as soon as she heard. Wow she really couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Her mistake. George was why I watched, so I won't be watching anymore.
She has always humiliated George more than any character.
George deserved love and happiness more than anyone, but all she did was crap on him. Then she kileld him.
I really can't forgive her for it.
Delinda Says:
July 27th, 2009 9:34 AM
I'm not going to watch without him. That's a fact. I'm so angry at Shonda for not even trying to change his mind.
After buying and reading the magazine, I love TR more than ever and have so much admiration for him. He amazes me.
Berlla Says:
July 27th, 2009 9:20 AM
If you really read the article, anuflas, you would know that Shonda didn't fight at all to get George to stay. She says so herself. She told Aussiello he was sure, she could see it on his face so she didn't try to make him change his mind. That's a pile of BS. That shows to me George didn't mean that much to her, or she would have tried to change his mind.
She didn't. He also tried to go repeatedly to her to ask her why George acted a certain why, what was his motivations and she never gave him any answers.
Patrick is the main actor on the show. TR is not. Things she would allow PD, she would not necessarily allow TR. Proof is PD criticized his stories many times, said season 3 was boring and bad, and never got any reproach about it. It was pretty much swept aside.
With all due respect, you don't know if TR fought. He says he did. He said he tried repeatedly for five years to get through to Shonda and all he got from her were lies after lies.
He got tired of it. He got tired of Shonda lying to him or being too busy to talk to him.
She planned to backburner him all season for one 30 secodns cliffhanger, and clouldn't even inform him about it, making him useless on the show.
She claims she wouldn't talk to him because she was too shy to do so. Too shy? Yeah right. That woman has never been shy when she told us to shut up and watch our show and to get over things.
She's a liar who has lied to us repeatedly, tweaks the truth and treats her actors like dirt.
Yet TR never comes off as bitter in those interviews.
She sided with IW when this came out. She got all huffy about the prospect of Burke being recasted but didn't seem at all upset by him calling TR the f word.
If TR had called IW the n word, he would have been out on his butt the very next day.
We blame Shonda because she's ruining her show and she did everything in her power so TR would leave.
The woman is also a gutless coward. Look at how she trashed Gizzie to make the haters happy, betraying all of those who loved them, and there was a lot of us.
Chicken kisser? He didn't seem that way in the elevator.
I REALLY did read the article and TR came off as classy, dignified, brave and way too nice to that witch.
He is not weak at all. He's probably the strongest person I know.
Dimples61 Says:
July 27th, 2009 2:21 AM
During that his best friendship with Izzie end with no explanation and his xwife turned into a horny lesbian.
Rodeo that made my day. I LMAO!!!! I won't comment any further. TY!!!
freddy Says:
July 26th, 2009 3:26 PM
does anyone know where I can find the ENTIRE transcript of this article? I;m from holland,...no ew here!
rodeo32rt Says:
July 26th, 2009 9:32 AM
I believe he made the right desicion.
After the Isaiahgate George's character was been totally humilliated.
He cheat his wife with his best friend.
He failed his exams.
He never got the chance to be with Izzie. Their relationship last only 4-5 episodes and the end was so lame.
He named "chicken-kisser".
Then was chief's bitch.
During that his best friendship with Izzie end with no explanation and his xwife turned into a horny lesbian.
We never saw him be with the rest of the fab5.
We never saw him while Izzie got cancer. He even went to the army before be sure that Izzie is fine.
That's not George. Not the sweet,kind,funny George we met and love. Who was the heart of the fab5. Is someone else.
I don't know what happened between him and Shonda or ABC. But when someone walk away from $ 14 millions then i guess he have very good reasons.
I was hopping to see him at the first few episodes but it seems that it's not going to happen.
I also believe that him going is because of Shonda's behaviour.
But i guess is her show. so...
I really wish TR the best. He is a great actor, and he seems like a nice guy too. I'm gonna miss him.
Grey's Anatomy would never be the same without him.
July 28th, 2009 8:34 AM
Marie of Marie....
" Isiah was full on jealous about Patrick Dempsey having more stories and screentime than him. Isiah auditioned for Derek and Patrick got it, and it's a well-known fact IW always hated PD for it and was terribly jealous".
Rob Lowe supposed to play Derek in the first place. I prefer Rob Lowe than PD as the matter of fact. IW=most annoying than George. I'm glad no more George and Burke. Can't wait for next season.
July 28th, 2009 8:27 AM
Goodbye TR and yarn and boring George. I'm totally agree with Luke. The show was great w/o George last season.
July 28th, 2009 7:12 AM
i hope you will be happy.
i will miss you, you where one of my favorites /;.
but i just want to say; you have open my eyes for everything, inside you always will be the best!
July 28th, 2009 3:37 AM
No need more air time for George. This character is no more needed in Grey's. It's a right decision to end this yarn character. George is the easiest to sway among the interns while he always thinks that his heart is in the right place. Every dicision he has made is in impulsive immotional reaction. I don't like him on the show. I'm glad. No more George.
July 28th, 2009 2:07 AM
he wants to leave let him leave...if he stayed he would have gotten more air time seeing that his character was hurt. just like KH got more air time after she bitched and moaned that she didn't like her story line the 4th season. she went through the same thing. If TR wants to do what he did before he got on grey's then i wish him the best of luck...but come on who can honestly say they know who he was before he was george???? if i got paid to do what he does i'd shut up and do my work...14 million for a few minutes of air time and people still know who i am.
after this we will not hear a thing from him, he's gointg to fall in the background somewhere just like isaiah washington. have we heard from him after grey's? yes he did the show on nbc but how long did that last?? TR messed up and i bet anything he will regret his decision of leaving. KH has..she wants to stay now. they should all just stick to the end theres just two more seasons to go. george would have had a hard time after what happened but then they could have gave him a storyline after that...maybe he gets another STD from a different nurse i don't know. i just think he made a big mistake. this is my opinion that's all. i know that there are a lot of TR and KH fans but those two together are annoying and more annoying there heads have gotten to big.
July 27th, 2009 11:16 PM
Yeah, I wish that TR would seriously reconsider for that episode, although I think it's a little too late. :(
July 27th, 2009 11:15 PM
She didn't. They even ask her why she didn't fight at all to get him to stay and she said he had made up his mind. That is such a cop out.
I did read the article you mentioned. She wanted to show how George died and how he got hit by a bus. Does she think we George fand wanted him to die and to see him die?
We didn't want ehr to see write for him AFTER his death. We wanted her to write for him when he was alive.
So even if TR said he would never come back and even if he never did, they could still have kept George alive like they did Burke.
They are not bringing back IW ever and Burke is still alive.
After everything George went through, all the hell, he deserved a happy ending, TR coming back for visits or not.
Izzie or some other could have given us news once in a while. Besides, people change their midns all the time and he might have come back one day.
Now he never can.
That's what makes me mad.
Alex and Izzie are so predictable. The good girl going with the bad guy, yawn.
I agree with the person who said Shonda didn't like AI. I never got the impression she did.
She wrote Gizzie as a love story. She never wrote Addek as one.
I have been lurking in a few boards and never really met any Addek fans but that doesn't mean anything. I do know several sites with big GI fanbases.
I do think Shonda never l,oved Addek and always emant for MerDer to happen but with Gizzie, she gushed so much about them and their love, I really think she let the haters influenced her, which is a shame as they ahd many fans.
I don't think I'll be watching much.
As a George and Gizzie fan, Shonda has let me down too much.
July 27th, 2009 10:36 PM
@anuflas - What a coincidence, I just read the whole article that was in EW and I can see both sides now, although I still don't think Shonda did ANYTHING to even TRY to get him to stay. Sounds like this whole thing has been brewing for a long time (on both sides) and its just a shame it had to come to this.
Therefore, I wish T.R. the very best and will mourn and miss him!
July 27th, 2009 9:21 PM
Sylvie,
Haha. Yes I did miss those IW moments. Thankfully. He annoys the hell out me anyway. However, if you noticed, it's very small moments that not even huge blogs (and I follow celebrity gossip blogs A LOT) bothered to write about it. That's what I meant. If you keep looking, you'll obviously find something about IW but they are non important. IW is irrelevant to GA. I think that using him as the excuse of TR exiting GA is actually irrelevant.
As for Addek and Gizzie, in this blog maybe not, but I saw in several other blogs a HUGE fan base for Addek. They also got robbed. Their relatioships may not be 100% alike but the issue of being erased from the map was.
Slexie? One word: Ew. Mark belongs with Callie. It's like the writers are trying for MerDer 2.0. by switching roles. I honestly don't think that one will last. Although I don't know why that came here.
Alex and Izzie...eh, like I said, from the moment that Alex called Izzie Dr. Model and Izzie had the locker room meltdown, I knew where this was going. It was the original plan from the start. Plans change. I do believe that Izzie doesn't love Alex the way Alex loves her. I honestly lost interest when Izzie started the ghost sex. So I don't have a real opinion on that.
As for ABC, that's my point. There wasn't any indication of anything! We don't know that. I can't tell you that yeah, ABC let him go like that of a $14 million contract, until ABC's president says publicly that they did. I don't buy that. If Shonda didn't listen...as far as I'm concerned, Rob Corn and Betsey Beers are also exec. producers. They also have a say.
Now I just want to let something clear: Even though I'm standing up for Shonda here, this is the woman that married my two favorite characters with a post it on a hospital locker room (I was ok with the meaning of it and the whole "wedding", really, if it had happen OUTSIDE the hospital) and that wants Big Sloan with Little Grey. I'm not leaving her out of the blame here. She has disappointed before but I have learned (the bad way) to always see the two sides. I'm trying to be impartial here although it doesn't seem to matter. :)
@ wannabeMer, rumor had it that Shonda did offer TR at least for the first episode of S.6. (if you go to ew.com, the first episode synopsis of George's story is there) to kinda see George's last day. TR refused to do so. I think Shonda decided to kill him once TR said he didn't want to come back for guest episodes (which would've been a much better solution if you ask me...)
July 27th, 2009 7:32 PM
I agree Sylvie. ABC said Shonda hadn't decided whether to kill George or not after the finale and she would do what the fans wanted. It now seems she planned to kill George the moment he told her he was leaving in December. She flat out lied to us. I haven't seen one person who wanted George to die. Not one. I saw all the polls, all the sites and everyone begged Shonda not to kill him.
Even the day before it was confirmed George had died, Krista said in TV Guide they hadn't decided yet. Now Shonda said in EW they had the moment he wsaid he quit.
They LIED.
I'm a MerDer fan and a George (Gizzie) fan and they keep lying to me.
TR is right. You can't believe a word she says.
I loved George. Why would she kill him and not let him be a hero in the army? Didn't George got through enough heartache in the five years he was on the show? why kill him like that?
July 27th, 2009 7:00 PM
Wow Sylvie, interesting commentary. I have to agree with you on some of your points. Especially at the end when you said Shonda is "the one who decided to kill George. If she really loved George, she would have kept the door open and let TR visit once in a while in the future not kill him off by literally throwing him under the bus."
She knows how much MOST fans love him, so why, why, WHY would she cut off all chances of him even making a guest appearance (which would have been a perfect compromise between the two of them in MY opinion). So it certainly does sound like SHE purposely phased him out and didn't even try to talk him out of leaving. Which again (in MY opinion) is NOT a good move for the show! What was/is she thinking???
July 27th, 2009 6:00 PM
IW was never heard from again. Really? Because you could have fooled me when for months, he appeared on tlak show after talk show bashing TR and calling him an evil Macchiaveli who had planned the whole thing and had come out to get attention. Yet again Shonda didn't say a word in his defence.
You also must have missed when ET intervied IW a few months ago about TR leaving, and he said with a huge nasty smile on his face George wasn't needed anymore. This was when the rumors had just started, back in about January. It's funny because TR leaving had not been confirmed and he seemed certain he was leaving. Did Shonda call her best buddy to tell him she had finally made life so mierable for TR he was leaving?
Shonda quite clearly said in one of the Grey matter blog that ALLL George and Izzie's previous relationships had been to lead them to their one REAL relationship, the one together.
She said they were true love and soulmates. She said she had planned them from day 1. I remember. The haters were quite livid about it and the fact she kept gushing about Gizzie being true love.
In fact in an article with the official GA magazine, they said that her relationship with Alex was mainly based on sex, that they weren't mean to be and that Alex loved Izzie a lot mroe than she did him.
Then suddenly by the time they break up, they were never in love and she and Alex were meant to be. She changed her dialogue completely. Even the people on TWOP think she meant for Gizzie to end up together and got scared of the haters. It's funny because when Mexie got just as much hate and a lot less love, she fought against the haters. I guess TR coming out made him different than Eric who is straight and everything.
Are you realloy comparing to Addek? Unreal. Derek never did a big love declaration to Addison and it was always obvious he wasn't into her but into Mer.
Izzie told George she was sure in her love she was in love with him. They wrote them as completely, madly and totally in love. Izzie called him her peni fish, saying she had him in her system. Remind me when Derek ever acted like Addison had that effect on her?
I don't believe Shonda likes AI. She just believes that is what the fans want.
I also know Addek have fans, but they don't have a third as many fans as Gizzie had. A lot of people watched solely for Gizzie and stopped when they broke up. I don't know one person who quit watching when Addek didn't work out.
It's not even close. In numerous polls, Gizzie was named second favorite couple only after MerDer. Addek never had close to any fans.
Where do you get the idea TR backed out easily? He has been going to her since she had him have the affair (which even as a Gizzie fan, I hated)and in his own words, he learned to believe he couldn't believe a word she told him about George.
That is what he said, word for word. That in the last five years, he elarned she wouldn't tell him the truth about George. That tells me he did go to her time after time since the show started only to be lied to.
Shonda was asked why she didn't fight for him to stay, and she said he had made up his mind. What in this is not clear? She said herself she didn't try to change his mind.
There is no indication at all ABC fought for him. If that had happened, it would have been mentioned. Shonda said she immediately let him go without even talking to him or explaning why his character had had nothing to do in the last two seasons and had vanished the last season.
Why should he stay? The message was clear. He was no longer wanted by her there. He was by the fans, but Shonda thought by erasing him all season, the fans would get over it and forget George.
Of course it didn't happen which is why she is now trying to make him the bad guy.
I'm not blaming you.
This is your opinion, but Shonda is the one ruining the show.
She's also the one who decided to kill George. If she really loved George, she would have kept the door open and let TR visit once i n a while in the future not kill him off by literally throwing him under the bus.
I could argue she has been thowing him under the bus since IW insulted him.
July 27th, 2009 4:02 PM
Berlla,
In the article it never said that Shonda didn't put up a fight, and if she didn't (this is an assumption), I'm sure as hell that ABC did. They are the bosses of Shonda. TR isn't going to put himself in the bad place. It would be ridiculous. This is HIS side. I haven't seen ABC's statement saying that yeah, they didn't bother. Again, this is MY interpretation of the article.
I'm trying to see both sides here because I do find unfair the constant bashing to Shonda. She doesn't lie but she doesn't tell the complete truth. She leaves some stuff out in order to keep us on the edge (which by the way, she does it really well). However, TR made a decision and if he says it was the right one for him, then ok. Cool, I hope he does well, but I do find the issue of backing out so easily.
If he was so determined to leave from the beginning, I can see Shonda's point of letting him go and putting him in the background as well as TR's fed up attitude with her. Although it seems unlikely.
I'm not commenting on the Gizzie relationship because just as you are mad on it, there are fans mad that Addek ended. Even when from the beginning, it was very well known that Derek was going to end up with Meredith and Izzie with Alex. That is up to everyone's own opinions about it. The storyline was already structure by S1/S2.
I also believe that the IW incident, while disgusting, a little overused. IW got his punishment and since then, we've never heard from him again (thank God). I can't honestly say that Shonda or TR are so bitter about it that they couldn't let it past them to have a professional relationship (ok, outside of workplace if they choose not to, whatever).
PD and TR's status as main and supporting may matter more to ABC than to Shonda or the writers. I still believe that he could've said something. I'm not saying change the storyline entirely but at least some actions he didn't agree with (like the 'fetch' thing).
And again, this is my interpretation of the article. You don't have to agree with me, I'm not looking for that. Just stating my opinion as we all are.
July 27th, 2009 3:57 PM
Why are we attacking other peoples opinions...just because you don't agree, you do not have to get all defensive. It is just a show.
July 27th, 2009 3:41 PM
I woudn't miss Alex and Izzie at all if they left. Not the Izzie with Alex at least.
Bailey? I used to love her but she has gotten way over the top the last two seasons.
I saw season 5 with no George. It sucked. It had no heart, no soul, nothing.
A lot of us see George as the heart and soul of the show.
He's the character most fans relate to. If you think the show won't suffer without George, I think you're delusional.
Whather you like him or not, the truth is most people do.
July 27th, 2009 3:38 PM
Overit, you need to respect the fact that many of us watch for George and he's our favorite character. Alex and Izzie? Huge huge ywan. Own and Cristina? Ugh.
George and Izzie were the best couple and George was why I watch.
I'm the opposite of you. This year, I always found myself wondering when George would show up because the rest of the show was so boring.
George has a lot of fans, deal with it. And yes, I watch the smae show you do.
July 27th, 2009 1:53 PM
overit
We watch the same show.
My favourite character is George. At least was.
I think Mark and Lexie are the most boring couple in the history of television.
I think that Alex-Izzie are also boring. The hot body with the model? Wow!!!
This is my opinion.
And You have to respect that some of us love George's character. At least the George of the first 3 seasons.
I wish him all the best.
July 27th, 2009 1:05 PM
Do you people watch the same show that I do? I mean news og George leaving is HUGE because he is the first main character to actually quit on his own. However, I have to say that George has NEVER been my favorite character. I have been an avid watcher since "A Hard Day's Night" and I have always found George to be a bit whiny and even annoying at times. I often found myself waiting for his storyline to be over so we could get to what was next. Sorry, but that is just my opinion. As far as T.R. Knight goes, I really don't know that much about him as a person...so I wish him the best of luck. I really don't think that Grey's is going to suffer any as a result of his leaving. If anything, it will give more screentime to MerDer, Mexie, McArmy and Cristina, Alex and Izzie, and Bailey. THOSE are the characters that the show would really struggle without. Can't wait for September!!!!
July 27th, 2009 11:58 AM
TR looks so amazingly hot there. I bought the mag just fro him and now I feel all dirty because I freaking hate Aussiello.
I love the interview. It makes me realize just how wodnerful TR is. He refused to be disrespected and wasted any longer.
I'll miss George and Gizzie. TR and Katie were so good together. Gizzie was the hottest, sweetest couple ever.
Some cute photos from thsi weekend with TR and Katie:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=07&evt=heigl-knight&pic=katherine-heigl-tr-knight-ugly-weekend-06.jpg
I hope the mods post them.
July 27th, 2009 10:54 AM
I bought the mag and got the same feeling too. That he fought and fought but Shonda never gave him anything in return. She was too busy for him. That makes me so angry.
I can't believe she admits to not even trying to get him to stay. She just said ok, and then jumped into writing his death as soon as she heard. Wow she really couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Her mistake. George was why I watched, so I won't be watching anymore.
She has always humiliated George more than any character.
George deserved love and happiness more than anyone, but all she did was crap on him. Then she kileld him.
I really can't forgive her for it.
July 27th, 2009 9:34 AM
I'm not going to watch without him. That's a fact. I'm so angry at Shonda for not even trying to change his mind.
After buying and reading the magazine, I love TR more than ever and have so much admiration for him. He amazes me.
July 27th, 2009 9:20 AM
If you really read the article, anuflas, you would know that Shonda didn't fight at all to get George to stay. She says so herself. She told Aussiello he was sure, she could see it on his face so she didn't try to make him change his mind. That's a pile of BS. That shows to me George didn't mean that much to her, or she would have tried to change his mind.
She didn't. He also tried to go repeatedly to her to ask her why George acted a certain why, what was his motivations and she never gave him any answers.
Patrick is the main actor on the show. TR is not. Things she would allow PD, she would not necessarily allow TR. Proof is PD criticized his stories many times, said season 3 was boring and bad, and never got any reproach about it. It was pretty much swept aside.
With all due respect, you don't know if TR fought. He says he did. He said he tried repeatedly for five years to get through to Shonda and all he got from her were lies after lies.
He got tired of it. He got tired of Shonda lying to him or being too busy to talk to him.
She planned to backburner him all season for one 30 secodns cliffhanger, and clouldn't even inform him about it, making him useless on the show.
She claims she wouldn't talk to him because she was too shy to do so. Too shy? Yeah right. That woman has never been shy when she told us to shut up and watch our show and to get over things.
She's a liar who has lied to us repeatedly, tweaks the truth and treats her actors like dirt.
Yet TR never comes off as bitter in those interviews.
She sided with IW when this came out. She got all huffy about the prospect of Burke being recasted but didn't seem at all upset by him calling TR the f word.
If TR had called IW the n word, he would have been out on his butt the very next day.
We blame Shonda because she's ruining her show and she did everything in her power so TR would leave.
The woman is also a gutless coward. Look at how she trashed Gizzie to make the haters happy, betraying all of those who loved them, and there was a lot of us.
Chicken kisser? He didn't seem that way in the elevator.
I REALLY did read the article and TR came off as classy, dignified, brave and way too nice to that witch.
He is not weak at all. He's probably the strongest person I know.
July 27th, 2009 2:21 AM
During that his best friendship with Izzie end with no explanation and his xwife turned into a horny lesbian.
Rodeo that made my day. I LMAO!!!! I won't comment any further. TY!!!
July 26th, 2009 3:26 PM
does anyone know where I can find the ENTIRE transcript of this article? I;m from holland,...no ew here!
July 26th, 2009 9:32 AM
I believe he made the right desicion.
After the Isaiahgate George's character was been totally humilliated.
He cheat his wife with his best friend.
He failed his exams.
He never got the chance to be with Izzie. Their relationship last only 4-5 episodes and the end was so lame.
He named "chicken-kisser".
Then was chief's bitch.
During that his best friendship with Izzie end with no explanation and his xwife turned into a horny lesbian.
We never saw him be with the rest of the fab5.
We never saw him while Izzie got cancer. He even went to the army before be sure that Izzie is fine.
That's not George. Not the sweet,kind,funny George we met and love. Who was the heart of the fab5. Is someone else.
I don't know what happened between him and Shonda or ABC. But when someone walk away from $ 14 millions then i guess he have very good reasons.
I was hopping to see him at the first few episodes but it seems that it's not going to happen.
I also believe that him going is because of Shonda's behaviour.
But i guess is her show. so...
I really wish TR the best. He is a great actor, and he seems like a nice guy too. I'm gonna miss him.
Grey's Anatomy would never be the same without him.