Am I the only person who is seriously disturbed by the way they portrayed cutting oneself?
It's a serious illness that many, many people suffer with every single day and here the writers are making it seem hardcore, badass like "ooh, if I do this enough I'll get to do a solo surgery go me" or even worse...
Sadie. Sadie ripping off her shirt and cutting herself and then twirling around asking seductively "who wants to stitch me up" made cutting seem sexy.
It's not badass, it's not hardcore, and it's not sexy. I'm almost as angry with the writers about this as I am about ABC's newfound fear of homosexuality. That better not be the reason we haven't seen much of George the last three weeks.
Sandra Says:
November 17th, 2008 6:28 AM
I agree with most of you regarding Sadie. Her scenes were a bit too dramatic, but I neither liked or disliked her really. What I hope for is that she makes Cristina see that a little distance to Mer&Der would be good. Then Cristina will turn to Owen. If Sadie then also stays away from Mer, she could be friends with Lexie, who doesn't really have any.
Sandra Says:
November 17th, 2008 6:34 AM
As there have been rumors now that Izzie actually won't quit the show, I think they might give her a tumor and, depending on the mood or situation or whatever determinates, they either let her die or let her be cured. That way they have drama and all possible outcomes...
ILOVEELLENPOMPEO Says:
November 17th, 2008 7:14 AM
WE NEED MORE GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND MERDER!!!!!!!
AND LESS SADIE!!!!!
lisa Says:
November 17th, 2008 7:35 AM
I was laughing at the comment on the Christina + Hunt nic. LOL! Def. will not do. We shall have to settle for Cowen. Or Carmy!
omfg! i agree totaly with all of the couple drama, it sucks right now! and we are missing george right now! least i miss him! he was only on the show 1 time last episode! NEED MORE MERDER!
Beth Says:
November 17th, 2008 8:24 AM
@ Larissa:
I completely agree with your assessment of Sadie's cutting behavior. Poorly handled by the writers and not treated with the proper amount of gravity. As someone who used to self-injure, I find this eroticized portrayal of self-inflicted violence not only distasteful but dangerous. Do your research Grey's writers!
patty Says:
November 17th, 2008 8:24 AM
I hate history of izzie/denny. In my opinion shonda is committing a mistake while bringing a dead guy, SERIOUSLY????
this history is not real...
sadie: I still do not know if I like or not, but since she is not in the middle of merder, it´s ok for me.
merder: please, NO MORE DRAMA between merder .... we already had lot drama in these 4 years, PLEASE, this couple needs peace.
enough the break up for them. I hope this time is forever ... the relationship on-again/of-again is old and boring to watch. the public is tired of this type of history.
Hope that shonda carries out his promise of merder TOGHETER FOR GOOD... Is she going to carry out the promise, RIGHT?
dithrik Says:
November 17th, 2008 10:48 AM
I felt like I was watching science fiction. The cutting, stitching, iv's and ghost is a little much. I do think Christina is guilty for the deal with the interns. I really like her, but she needed to teach those guys. Why didn't Baily keep a better eye on that situation? I have not missed an episode since the beginning. I have all the season's on dvd and have watched them over & over. I even have the cd's. This is the only show I watch and I don't think I can give it up. Please do something to make this more true to life.
Shelton Says:
November 17th, 2008 11:07 AM
More MerDer, more more George.
Please.
I love George, please tell me he isn't leaving. I wish you would address this.
Johna Says:
November 17th, 2008 8:33 PM
ok what the heck! im sitting there watching the episode and im watching izzie be haunted by her dead fiance. And im like wow they have run out of story lines but then she touches him and kisses him. and im like wow! so now izzie is kissing invisible men and most likely sleeping with and invisible man. im thats just beyond weird. literally though u cant get weirder than that. can u imagine alex walks in and sees izzie like having sex with someone who isn't actually there. And you cant forget that she is once again ditching alex for denny. So despite how much i dont want izzie to be written off the show with a brain tumor, i dont see how else this messed up situation could be explained
I am a huge Grey's Fan... watched it from the start but come on... seriously?! The whole Denny thing is rediculous. I think that Shonda and the team like JDM so much they just want to keep bringing him back but the way they are doing it is so... ARGH. If Izzy has a tumour then I think it will more than likely be cured by the Shepard Method or something.
I just get the feeling that everything is a little sketchy at the moment and the whole Hahn departure has thrown things a little. I also think the cast is way too big now. They are adding more and more members without actually finishing off the story of the current cast... the chief and adele? Alex and Rebecca/Ava/Jane Doe?
It's all just crazy and I would never have ever thought that the most stable character on the show would be MEREDITH! I mean, come on.
As for the whole George issue I am appalled at the face time the guy is getting and all he ever seems to do when he gets a scene is blink and stare in wonderment... Katherine Heigl had the nerve to say that the writers didn't give her anything good and then poor TR doesn't get anything at all!
I say they get rid of the stupid intern storyline, hook up Christina and Owen and BRING BACK BURKE. I am a gay guy myself and I think all is forgiven, the guy knew how to act, he gave the show some sort of wisdom... which now isn't provided by the chief or Bailey because they are so obsessed with being the best now. I have to say though, Mary MacDonnell's addition was wonderful, it is that kind of doctor the show needs, with a good story that is thought-provoking.
I just think the characters have completely changed and rather than sorting out the issues that they have, they just add extra characters. I think its clearly an issue when Private Practice becomes the stronger show!
Sort it out, Grey's! Go back to the drawing board.
alexaholic Says:
November 17th, 2008 9:33 PM
Joey, I could not agree with you more! I am utterly disappointed with the storyline involving Izzie and Denny---Shonda, Enough already!! Are you trying to cash in on the "Twilight" rage---because there is no place for the undead on GA. It's a little ridiculous and those of us who love ALEX don't want to see him get even more f'ed up than he already is---we were just starting to see good ALex and now you gotta dump this on him.
As for Sadie, Sadie, cocky lady---I almost took out my exacto knife and cut the cord to my cable TV---I don't care for anyone who comes dancing in there like she owns the place and the cutting problem is completely romanticized--a very bad message indeed for teens and young adults. Self-mutilation IS a serious illness and the story should have been handled more responsibly. I was happy with several things: love Mary McDonnell's character and the way she caught Bailey up short. I absolutely love Cristina and Owen Hunt and am eager to see their relationship develop. The verrrrrry interesting look (of longing) that McSteamy gave Lexie in the bar set my blood to racing! I think that would be a very good relationship for both of them, and let's face it, Lexie needs to grow up and he's a nice grown up man who wants to be admired--she would look up to him. He so clearly suffers from self esteem issues. Besides, they are both darling and would look great in bed together!!
ILOVEELLENPOMPEO Says:
November 18th, 2008 7:25 AM
Where the F*** was GEORGIE!!!!!!!!!!! i dont even rember him being in the episode!!! and we need more MERDER STAT!!!!!!!!! and we need more kevin mckidd and cristina!!!! they are great together!!!!!!!!
Alexaholic, I agree, the character of Karev is getting so sidelined its stupid. I think it is a shame Kate Walsh left (in general..) but also for the fact that I think Addison and Alex would've made an interesting duo but yeah, he needs something good. I just think the show has lost its sense of character... The Chief was the wise guy who put things into perspective and now he's letting Bailey run around removing people's organs left right and center and basically being stubborn and dangerous! Level Headed Bailey has now become gun-ho crazy... I just want the old Grey's back where the cast integrated more, there was more emphasis on the patients and the cases were extremely interesting (think cement boy!) and I just get the feeling some things are just rushed, there is no continuity.
Rant (no 2) over!
lovesgreys Says:
November 18th, 2008 10:21 AM
I agree with the general consensus that the continuity of this show is falling apart. The backstage drama needs to be kept so and the characters that we love need to get the time they deserve. Adding new characters isn't a problem IF they don't totally detract from the flow of the story. Right now, we have interns we barely see who somehow aren't learning ANYTHING and have an awful lot of time to be cutting each other up. When Meredith and the rest were interns they were definitely learning and DEFINITELY had no time for secret societies. This is just one example of the fading credibility that is sneaking in. I think everyone who writes for this show should go back and watch their Season 1 DVDs - or heck, the first 3 episodes of this season! Find the holes, patch what needs patching with some sort of sense and THEN we can move on the the 43 new characters we've gotten since then.
AS Says:
November 18th, 2008 10:54 AM
katie is so vocal, maybe she could speak up for her best friend and the horrible way they are treating him? She whined a lot last season and she never got treated as shabbily as TR is being treated right now. She humiliated the show and got a huge story. TR is always classy and never complains and gets the shaft? There is something wrong with that when whiny divas get rewarded over professional good guys. She was mroe than vocal about IW, so why doesn't she stand up for him now?
Andie Says:
November 18th, 2008 10:56 AM
I know, TR deserves better than that. I want him with Lexie and I will scream if he and Izzie don't talk soon.
Mark and Lexie are just disgusting. Watching a 40-year old man sleep with a young girl is sick! They have no chemistry.
Karina Says:
November 18th, 2008 12:26 PM
You didn't even mention the lack of George. His fans miss him!
November 17th, 2008 2:13 AM
Am I the only person who is seriously disturbed by the way they portrayed cutting oneself?
It's a serious illness that many, many people suffer with every single day and here the writers are making it seem hardcore, badass like "ooh, if I do this enough I'll get to do a solo surgery go me" or even worse...
Sadie. Sadie ripping off her shirt and cutting herself and then twirling around asking seductively "who wants to stitch me up" made cutting seem sexy.
It's not badass, it's not hardcore, and it's not sexy. I'm almost as angry with the writers about this as I am about ABC's newfound fear of homosexuality. That better not be the reason we haven't seen much of George the last three weeks.
November 17th, 2008 6:28 AM
I agree with most of you regarding Sadie. Her scenes were a bit too dramatic, but I neither liked or disliked her really. What I hope for is that she makes Cristina see that a little distance to Mer&Der would be good. Then Cristina will turn to Owen. If Sadie then also stays away from Mer, she could be friends with Lexie, who doesn't really have any.
November 17th, 2008 6:34 AM
As there have been rumors now that Izzie actually won't quit the show, I think they might give her a tumor and, depending on the mood or situation or whatever determinates, they either let her die or let her be cured. That way they have drama and all possible outcomes...
November 17th, 2008 7:14 AM
WE NEED MORE GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND MERDER!!!!!!!
AND LESS SADIE!!!!!
November 17th, 2008 7:35 AM
I was laughing at the comment on the Christina + Hunt nic. LOL! Def. will not do. We shall have to settle for Cowen. Or Carmy!
November 17th, 2008 7:42 AM
omfg! i agree totaly with all of the couple drama, it sucks right now! and we are missing george right now! least i miss him! he was only on the show 1 time last episode! NEED MORE MERDER!
November 17th, 2008 8:24 AM
@ Larissa:
I completely agree with your assessment of Sadie's cutting behavior. Poorly handled by the writers and not treated with the proper amount of gravity. As someone who used to self-injure, I find this eroticized portrayal of self-inflicted violence not only distasteful but dangerous. Do your research Grey's writers!
November 17th, 2008 8:24 AM
I hate history of izzie/denny. In my opinion shonda is committing a mistake while bringing a dead guy, SERIOUSLY????
this history is not real...
sadie: I still do not know if I like or not, but since she is not in the middle of merder, it´s ok for me.
merder: please, NO MORE DRAMA between merder .... we already had lot drama in these 4 years, PLEASE, this couple needs peace.
enough the break up for them. I hope this time is forever ... the relationship on-again/of-again is old and boring to watch. the public is tired of this type of history.
Hope that shonda carries out his promise of merder TOGHETER FOR GOOD... Is she going to carry out the promise, RIGHT?
November 17th, 2008 10:48 AM
I felt like I was watching science fiction. The cutting, stitching, iv's and ghost is a little much. I do think Christina is guilty for the deal with the interns. I really like her, but she needed to teach those guys. Why didn't Baily keep a better eye on that situation? I have not missed an episode since the beginning. I have all the season's on dvd and have watched them over & over. I even have the cd's. This is the only show I watch and I don't think I can give it up. Please do something to make this more true to life.
November 17th, 2008 11:07 AM
More MerDer, more more George.
Please.
I love George, please tell me he isn't leaving. I wish you would address this.
November 17th, 2008 8:33 PM
ok what the heck! im sitting there watching the episode and im watching izzie be haunted by her dead fiance. And im like wow they have run out of story lines but then she touches him and kisses him. and im like wow! so now izzie is kissing invisible men and most likely sleeping with and invisible man. im thats just beyond weird. literally though u cant get weirder than that. can u imagine alex walks in and sees izzie like having sex with someone who isn't actually there. And you cant forget that she is once again ditching alex for denny. So despite how much i dont want izzie to be written off the show with a brain tumor, i dont see how else this messed up situation could be explained
November 17th, 2008 9:15 PM
I am a huge Grey's Fan... watched it from the start but come on... seriously?! The whole Denny thing is rediculous. I think that Shonda and the team like JDM so much they just want to keep bringing him back but the way they are doing it is so... ARGH. If Izzy has a tumour then I think it will more than likely be cured by the Shepard Method or something.
I just get the feeling that everything is a little sketchy at the moment and the whole Hahn departure has thrown things a little. I also think the cast is way too big now. They are adding more and more members without actually finishing off the story of the current cast... the chief and adele? Alex and Rebecca/Ava/Jane Doe?
It's all just crazy and I would never have ever thought that the most stable character on the show would be MEREDITH! I mean, come on.
As for the whole George issue I am appalled at the face time the guy is getting and all he ever seems to do when he gets a scene is blink and stare in wonderment... Katherine Heigl had the nerve to say that the writers didn't give her anything good and then poor TR doesn't get anything at all!
I say they get rid of the stupid intern storyline, hook up Christina and Owen and BRING BACK BURKE. I am a gay guy myself and I think all is forgiven, the guy knew how to act, he gave the show some sort of wisdom... which now isn't provided by the chief or Bailey because they are so obsessed with being the best now. I have to say though, Mary MacDonnell's addition was wonderful, it is that kind of doctor the show needs, with a good story that is thought-provoking.
I just think the characters have completely changed and rather than sorting out the issues that they have, they just add extra characters. I think its clearly an issue when Private Practice becomes the stronger show!
Sort it out, Grey's! Go back to the drawing board.
November 17th, 2008 9:33 PM
Joey, I could not agree with you more! I am utterly disappointed with the storyline involving Izzie and Denny---Shonda, Enough already!! Are you trying to cash in on the "Twilight" rage---because there is no place for the undead on GA. It's a little ridiculous and those of us who love ALEX don't want to see him get even more f'ed up than he already is---we were just starting to see good ALex and now you gotta dump this on him.
As for Sadie, Sadie, cocky lady---I almost took out my exacto knife and cut the cord to my cable TV---I don't care for anyone who comes dancing in there like she owns the place and the cutting problem is completely romanticized--a very bad message indeed for teens and young adults. Self-mutilation IS a serious illness and the story should have been handled more responsibly. I was happy with several things: love Mary McDonnell's character and the way she caught Bailey up short. I absolutely love Cristina and Owen Hunt and am eager to see their relationship develop. The verrrrrry interesting look (of longing) that McSteamy gave Lexie in the bar set my blood to racing! I think that would be a very good relationship for both of them, and let's face it, Lexie needs to grow up and he's a nice grown up man who wants to be admired--she would look up to him. He so clearly suffers from self esteem issues. Besides, they are both darling and would look great in bed together!!
November 18th, 2008 7:25 AM
Where the F*** was GEORGIE!!!!!!!!!!! i dont even rember him being in the episode!!! and we need more MERDER STAT!!!!!!!!! and we need more kevin mckidd and cristina!!!! they are great together!!!!!!!!
November 18th, 2008 9:37 AM
Alexaholic, I agree, the character of Karev is getting so sidelined its stupid. I think it is a shame Kate Walsh left (in general..) but also for the fact that I think Addison and Alex would've made an interesting duo but yeah, he needs something good. I just think the show has lost its sense of character... The Chief was the wise guy who put things into perspective and now he's letting Bailey run around removing people's organs left right and center and basically being stubborn and dangerous! Level Headed Bailey has now become gun-ho crazy... I just want the old Grey's back where the cast integrated more, there was more emphasis on the patients and the cases were extremely interesting (think cement boy!) and I just get the feeling some things are just rushed, there is no continuity.
Rant (no 2) over!
November 18th, 2008 10:21 AM
I agree with the general consensus that the continuity of this show is falling apart. The backstage drama needs to be kept so and the characters that we love need to get the time they deserve. Adding new characters isn't a problem IF they don't totally detract from the flow of the story. Right now, we have interns we barely see who somehow aren't learning ANYTHING and have an awful lot of time to be cutting each other up. When Meredith and the rest were interns they were definitely learning and DEFINITELY had no time for secret societies. This is just one example of the fading credibility that is sneaking in. I think everyone who writes for this show should go back and watch their Season 1 DVDs - or heck, the first 3 episodes of this season! Find the holes, patch what needs patching with some sort of sense and THEN we can move on the the 43 new characters we've gotten since then.
November 18th, 2008 10:54 AM
katie is so vocal, maybe she could speak up for her best friend and the horrible way they are treating him? She whined a lot last season and she never got treated as shabbily as TR is being treated right now. She humiliated the show and got a huge story. TR is always classy and never complains and gets the shaft? There is something wrong with that when whiny divas get rewarded over professional good guys. She was mroe than vocal about IW, so why doesn't she stand up for him now?
November 18th, 2008 10:56 AM
I know, TR deserves better than that. I want him with Lexie and I will scream if he and Izzie don't talk soon.
Mark and Lexie are just disgusting. Watching a 40-year old man sleep with a young girl is sick! They have no chemistry.
November 18th, 2008 12:26 PM
You didn't even mention the lack of George. His fans miss him!