merder fan, Meredith's not prefect either. She's made just as many mistakes as Derek.
MERDER FAN Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:16 AM
Now that I have vented about MER.
I agree with season one and two. I loved every show! Season 3 -I loved a few shows and few scenes in a few shows. Season 4- loved the show with Lexie holding the guy's artery and MER telling DER not to date and HAhn to shut-up! MER's character is finally growing! I was pumped that this is the show that I fell in love with. I was so pumped for the last show and it left me empty too. There were a few great lines but the overall excitement was not there for me. I didn't even cry over the baby which was really sad! I just did not have the connection. This is what I am left with until the end of the strike? I was not happy! Some of my friends said that they were not going to watch any more. They were done! I am trying to keep them hooked for a little while by reading the blogs so they can vent. I don't know if the petition will work but it can't hurt! I am busy so the only show I watch is this one. I guess I can go back to CSI if they can't get it together.
Jenny Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:27 AM
I signed. I think it is a great idea. Grey's is STILL off track and the writers and ABC need to wake up.
allaboutsloan Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:31 AM
Bright&Shiny I agree with you about the petition thing.
MERDER FAN Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:32 AM
Jessica- Not a blind MER fan. Seriously, MER has done plenty of damage with her mistakes. I just get tired of everyone always blaming her. LIKE DER IS PERFECT! She is slightly more damaged than DER! Still love them together better than apart!
There is one of thing that I liked with FINN- he seemed to know how to handle MER better than DER. When to push and when to pull back and she seemed to respond better to him. The only problem is she loved DER her soul mate. I just hope Shondra realizes we will love the show more if they just let MERDER get together and no more break-ups. Just fight and the MAKE-UP! It is not like there will be no more problems for them once they are together.
RoseIsMe Says:
January 17th, 2008 1:34 AM
See, here's the thing. I'm just as big of a Grey's fan as the rest of you but demanding that the show go your way is rediculous! Life isn't perfect, and would it be interesting to watch if there wasnt the dark conflict? NO then there would be no point in watching. I mean do we really watch it for the medicine? I think not. WE watch it for the relationship drama. Just let the writers do their work. Change happens. Life kinda sucks that way but really if you hate change so much I suggest going back to the dark ages where there would have been no Grey's Anatomy. Bubonic plague...but no Grey's
PS I know I'm one of few to say this and I'll most likely get shot down...But after that last episode I dont think that Mer and McDreamy belong together *winces for forthcomming torches and pitchforks* I really rather like Rose and I think a fresh face and a new perspective will be good for the show and for Derek.
Lieke Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:59 AM
Season 4 was much better than season 3. It is impossible for the writers to please everybody and I hate those shows where they do try that. (then you'll get something like season 3, with all the unfinished storylines)
So I just hope the writers do what they think is good. I have faith in them.
And I don't hate Rose. It's not her fault Derek is attracted to her and it's even less her fault HE kissed her.
iloveEllenPompeo Says:
January 17th, 2008 6:01 AM
meredith is the best and i will 4 one always be on her side even though i love merder derek is more to blame than derek
a.n.a. Says:
January 17th, 2008 6:18 AM
People are relentlessly stupid sometimes. Is life pink?!Or the fans are looking for a pop sensation, dettached from reality?! Meredith, Izzie, Alex, Cristina and George are leaving college, getting into the real world. The real world means good and bad, not perfect! And as far as Derek is concerned...i'm so sick of the mr. perfect kind of thing. has anyone even considered the reason why derek got so attached to dark and twisted meredith?!
greyslover Says:
January 17th, 2008 6:53 AM
I think the petition would have been better if the 'starter' would just have said 'bring merder back', instead of attacking Derek and attacking Shonda about the show.
Btw I don't know anymore who wrote it here, but it's no new spoiler that Cristina will hook up with Joshua Jackson.
Amber Says:
January 17th, 2008 11:51 AM
So, here's the thing...I understand all of your pains and I know that I totally love MerDer together and happy and etc...however, as in real life, people cannot always wait forever for someone to change and be ready for that person to be with them. This is obviously the case between Derek and Mer. I hate the idea of Derek being with anyone else, because it just seems so obvious that they are meant for each other. However, since she isn't ready for all the committment and stuff, he has the right to look around. Who says he will stop loving her? You can love two people at the same time, even if it doesn't seem so. I am annoyed with Rose, but if it makes the plot continue on, then good for it. It would not be as interesting if Derek and Meredith were happy and together all the time. There has to be a degree of conflict between them until it is decided that they will stay together in the end...which I am hoping is what will happen. I'm pretty sure that the producers, writers (even though they are currently on strike), and everybody else knows that the fans want to see MerDer work out in the end, even if it takes some mistakes and other relationships for them to get there. Please keep in mind that it is way difficult to keep the show pleasing to everyone, especially admist this ridiculous strike that seriously needs to end. If we want the show to run for many more seasons, the happy ending cannot be reached yet. Like I said before, I truely do want and need MerDer to work out in the end, but that may not happen until the end...
Oh, and I must say that I respect this petition, but I almost believe that we should really begin a petition to end this writer's strike so that the plot line can be changed for the disgruntled viewers and so we can all have the show we know and love back on the air. This strike has got to end.
Sarah Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:23 PM
ITA with Claire.
I'm a fan of both but I'M TIRED to read that it's always Meredith's fault. Derek is a needy too and more than Meredith. Fans should realize it.
Vera Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:24 PM
We need to believe in true love!!Since the beginning we believe that everything gone be ok with Mer and Derek,that love can't just die!!! It just not right, after the thing that happened with, they deserve to be happy!!
At real live this just not happen...it´s true!But we need to dream right? we need to believe something! Let them be happy! Mer knows that loves Derek, and the same happens with them! He said the she's the love of his live, that feeling can't just end like that!
Esther Says:
January 17th, 2008 12:38 PM
Totally out of context...but get rid of that loud mouth Dizzie character and maybe the show might just move along...the problem with Shonda's writing...although I have been a fan of some of her stuff is that it is fluff...and not totally realistic...she comes from a different place than most of us - she is a single adoptive mom - that is not a bad thing - there isn't enough room here to totally expand - I like Shonda just not all her stuff. As for the writing ...it comes from the perspective of different writers so there isn't always a full connect of all that is the character, i.e. Meredith or McDreamy. It is different perspective of how people reacted in various instances or life events of the different writers making it happen on television. The production staff has to attempt some sort of consistency that is for sure. I watch very rarely now. I've actually taken up a class to avoid watching the show on Thursdays...sometimes I don't tune in anymore.
mcdreamylove1 Says:
January 17th, 2008 3:17 PM
thank you nan-evy thats what ive been wondering for the past 5 days they usually put the whole happy birthday thing....wow....oh and i dont see wat derek did wrong..it's just that meredith is scared she didn't even want the whole huge comittment thing before she found out about rose and he said no to rose in the beginning..so he's right she will always find a reason not to trust him..and you guys call youselves mcdreamy and greys fans a true fan would not get all that mad because if they are together now thenit wouldnt be called a drama and shondas keeping the whole happy ever after thing til the end because that would be thethe end she needs a exciting story line so i disagree and i refuse to sign the petition even though its killing me that merder is not together...HAPPY BIRTHDAY MCDREAMY..
Elaine Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:01 PM
I love that the show is dark again, its how it started. Think of the 2nd season with Denny and the bomb episode. Dark, I hated when they started to make it silly and funny, that is not what the show is about. When dramas start becoming about humor and comedy is when they lose the audience they originally captured. Look at the O.C. it became corny and silly and lost the "dark".
die rose. derekisformeredith Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:01 PM
ok i am tired of people saying "you guys call youselves mcdreamy and greys fans" and "if you don't like what you are watching, don't watch."... we are expressing our opinions. we arent saying we hate the show we just want things to change, we arent going to stop watching it. we are just discussing what we want. so it really isnt fair to keep telling us to stop watching the show. we arent complaining we are just expressing our opinions.
justme Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:24 PM
I do agree with what most people are saying that the show isn't on par with where it was but I think it's still great. I have to say I'm surprised that people are only talking about Meredith and Derrek when one of the biggest character changes on the show has been Izzy. She went from being this sweet girl who was engaged to Denny and gave Alex a chance to this woman who will sleep with a married man and then three episodes later they aren't even together anymore? I just don't get it.
Marge Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:25 PM
I signed the petition. I don't think it is about asking the writers to just blindly do what the fans want, but instead, to return the show to its roots. When written well, Grey's can be a wonderful, fun, enjoyable show to watch, but it hasn't been that for quite some time. There are some great moments, but they are too few and far between. Mer/Der is a mess and it needs to be fixed fast. I know so many people who are saying they are done with Greys. It doesn't have to be this way and I think that is all the petition is saying. So, I say yea, let's keep it up and get more signatures.
Team Derek Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:28 PM
I read the whole petition and I agree with most of things involving the show itself. But I don't agree with them questioning Derek. They said that in a point of view, we want the McDreamy. True. But lets step outside the fact that it's a guy. How many of us, women have been in the Dreamy situation? Giving the best of ourselves to a man, and he just doesnt give it back?
We saw this man loving Meredith for 3 seasons and she always turns her back on him.
I love Derek and I saw myself in Derek's situation many, many of times. I honestly am really tired of Meredith. I know her life is complicated, I know that she's scared, and all that, but c'mon, it's been 3 seasons of her running away from everybody (except Christina).
Would you stay waiting for her? Let's be honest. It's hard. Here is this man, wanting to build a life with this woman. And he is dreamy enough to say it, to admit it and what does she do? Nothing. The only time that she wants to open to him is when he wonders about someone else. It's real life in a TV show, so lets' be fair... Wouldnt you wonder as well? Wouldnt you wonder if maybe there's someone capable of giving you the love you deserve?
Would you really just sit and wait for someone?
The show is really changed, and I do miss the good old days. I miss them together, I really do. But it's not Derek's fault.
He is Dreamy, and he'll always be, he is just human. ( if you know what I mean).
McKenzie Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:40 PM
I would just like to say I read the whole petition, (which sounds a lot better then the excerpts above), and I totally agree with it. I love seasons 1 & 2, especially 1, and this last 'I can't do this anymore' deal with merder from the last episode is just annoying. I would hate to see them break up forever, but make up your minds! It is completely ridiculous now (and don't get me started on George and Izzie).
rosehater Says:
January 17th, 2008 4:45 PM
personally, I think derek needs to slow down with meredith. he said it himself-she has trust issues. He loves her so he should be willing to wait to start thinking about building a house with her. she's just not ready for it.
die rose. derekisformeredith Says:
January 17th, 2008 5:09 PM
i agree mckenzie and rosehater. he knows that she didnt want all this and then he decides to build them a house the second they get back together. i think he knew she would react this way, so he took advantage of that so that hee would have reason to break up with her. plus meredith just needs to flat out grow up. they both seem like they dont love each other anymore. especially derek. he used to look at her so lovingly, but now hes just looking at her like he used to look at addisno when he was really ion love with meredith. i agree with what both of them said: derek "you cant trust anybody" and mer: "you dont want me. you want someone, you want someone who wants the same things you want." sorry for my rambling.
Gizzieislove Says:
January 17th, 2008 5:21 PM
I agree with the Derek part of the petition but not the george and Izzie one, they are the reason why I watched the show last season and this one. Do I like how they got together? no, most Gizzie fans don't but at the same time they are flawed human beings and people make mistakes when they are crazy in love. All the characters made mistakes and I am glad George and Izzie are not perfect people, how boring would that be? I am much more upset about them breaking up because Shonda got afraid of the backlash and did not realize how many people loved those two together, that upsets me because after seeing how in love they were, their breakup felt like it was: a cowering out and a compromising of any writing intergity.
vic Says:
January 17th, 2008 6:43 PM
i'm actually getting tired of grey's anatomy, never thought i'd see the day. and i used to be obsessed with keeping merder toegether, and theyve split them up so much i've lost interest :(
January 17th, 2008 12:12 AM
merder fan, Meredith's not prefect either. She's made just as many mistakes as Derek.
January 17th, 2008 12:16 AM
Now that I have vented about MER.
I agree with season one and two. I loved every show! Season 3 -I loved a few shows and few scenes in a few shows. Season 4- loved the show with Lexie holding the guy's artery and MER telling DER not to date and HAhn to shut-up! MER's character is finally growing! I was pumped that this is the show that I fell in love with. I was so pumped for the last show and it left me empty too. There were a few great lines but the overall excitement was not there for me. I didn't even cry over the baby which was really sad! I just did not have the connection. This is what I am left with until the end of the strike? I was not happy! Some of my friends said that they were not going to watch any more. They were done! I am trying to keep them hooked for a little while by reading the blogs so they can vent. I don't know if the petition will work but it can't hurt! I am busy so the only show I watch is this one. I guess I can go back to CSI if they can't get it together.
January 17th, 2008 12:27 AM
I signed. I think it is a great idea. Grey's is STILL off track and the writers and ABC need to wake up.
January 17th, 2008 12:31 AM
Bright&Shiny I agree with you about the petition thing.
January 17th, 2008 12:32 AM
Jessica- Not a blind MER fan. Seriously, MER has done plenty of damage with her mistakes. I just get tired of everyone always blaming her. LIKE DER IS PERFECT! She is slightly more damaged than DER! Still love them together better than apart!
There is one of thing that I liked with FINN- he seemed to know how to handle MER better than DER. When to push and when to pull back and she seemed to respond better to him. The only problem is she loved DER her soul mate. I just hope Shondra realizes we will love the show more if they just let MERDER get together and no more break-ups. Just fight and the MAKE-UP! It is not like there will be no more problems for them once they are together.
January 17th, 2008 1:34 AM
See, here's the thing. I'm just as big of a Grey's fan as the rest of you but demanding that the show go your way is rediculous! Life isn't perfect, and would it be interesting to watch if there wasnt the dark conflict? NO then there would be no point in watching. I mean do we really watch it for the medicine? I think not. WE watch it for the relationship drama. Just let the writers do their work. Change happens. Life kinda sucks that way but really if you hate change so much I suggest going back to the dark ages where there would have been no Grey's Anatomy. Bubonic plague...but no Grey's
PS I know I'm one of few to say this and I'll most likely get shot down...But after that last episode I dont think that Mer and McDreamy belong together *winces for forthcomming torches and pitchforks* I really rather like Rose and I think a fresh face and a new perspective will be good for the show and for Derek.
January 17th, 2008 4:59 AM
Season 4 was much better than season 3. It is impossible for the writers to please everybody and I hate those shows where they do try that. (then you'll get something like season 3, with all the unfinished storylines)
So I just hope the writers do what they think is good. I have faith in them.
And I don't hate Rose. It's not her fault Derek is attracted to her and it's even less her fault HE kissed her.
January 17th, 2008 6:01 AM
meredith is the best and i will 4 one always be on her side even though i love merder derek is more to blame than derek
January 17th, 2008 6:18 AM
People are relentlessly stupid sometimes. Is life pink?!Or the fans are looking for a pop sensation, dettached from reality?! Meredith, Izzie, Alex, Cristina and George are leaving college, getting into the real world. The real world means good and bad, not perfect! And as far as Derek is concerned...i'm so sick of the mr. perfect kind of thing. has anyone even considered the reason why derek got so attached to dark and twisted meredith?!
January 17th, 2008 6:53 AM
I think the petition would have been better if the 'starter' would just have said 'bring merder back', instead of attacking Derek and attacking Shonda about the show.
Btw I don't know anymore who wrote it here, but it's no new spoiler that Cristina will hook up with Joshua Jackson.
January 17th, 2008 11:51 AM
So, here's the thing...I understand all of your pains and I know that I totally love MerDer together and happy and etc...however, as in real life, people cannot always wait forever for someone to change and be ready for that person to be with them. This is obviously the case between Derek and Mer. I hate the idea of Derek being with anyone else, because it just seems so obvious that they are meant for each other. However, since she isn't ready for all the committment and stuff, he has the right to look around. Who says he will stop loving her? You can love two people at the same time, even if it doesn't seem so. I am annoyed with Rose, but if it makes the plot continue on, then good for it. It would not be as interesting if Derek and Meredith were happy and together all the time. There has to be a degree of conflict between them until it is decided that they will stay together in the end...which I am hoping is what will happen. I'm pretty sure that the producers, writers (even though they are currently on strike), and everybody else knows that the fans want to see MerDer work out in the end, even if it takes some mistakes and other relationships for them to get there. Please keep in mind that it is way difficult to keep the show pleasing to everyone, especially admist this ridiculous strike that seriously needs to end. If we want the show to run for many more seasons, the happy ending cannot be reached yet. Like I said before, I truely do want and need MerDer to work out in the end, but that may not happen until the end...
Oh, and I must say that I respect this petition, but I almost believe that we should really begin a petition to end this writer's strike so that the plot line can be changed for the disgruntled viewers and so we can all have the show we know and love back on the air. This strike has got to end.
January 17th, 2008 12:23 PM
ITA with Claire.
I'm a fan of both but I'M TIRED to read that it's always Meredith's fault. Derek is a needy too and more than Meredith. Fans should realize it.
January 17th, 2008 12:24 PM
We need to believe in true love!!Since the beginning we believe that everything gone be ok with Mer and Derek,that love can't just die!!! It just not right, after the thing that happened with, they deserve to be happy!!
At real live this just not happen...it´s true!But we need to dream right? we need to believe something! Let them be happy! Mer knows that loves Derek, and the same happens with them! He said the she's the love of his live, that feeling can't just end like that!
January 17th, 2008 12:38 PM
Totally out of context...but get rid of that loud mouth Dizzie character and maybe the show might just move along...the problem with Shonda's writing...although I have been a fan of some of her stuff is that it is fluff...and not totally realistic...she comes from a different place than most of us - she is a single adoptive mom - that is not a bad thing - there isn't enough room here to totally expand - I like Shonda just not all her stuff. As for the writing ...it comes from the perspective of different writers so there isn't always a full connect of all that is the character, i.e. Meredith or McDreamy. It is different perspective of how people reacted in various instances or life events of the different writers making it happen on television. The production staff has to attempt some sort of consistency that is for sure. I watch very rarely now. I've actually taken up a class to avoid watching the show on Thursdays...sometimes I don't tune in anymore.
January 17th, 2008 3:17 PM
thank you nan-evy thats what ive been wondering for the past 5 days they usually put the whole happy birthday thing....wow....oh and i dont see wat derek did wrong..it's just that meredith is scared she didn't even want the whole huge comittment thing before she found out about rose and he said no to rose in the beginning..so he's right she will always find a reason not to trust him..and you guys call youselves mcdreamy and greys fans a true fan would not get all that mad because if they are together now thenit wouldnt be called a drama and shondas keeping the whole happy ever after thing til the end because that would be thethe end she needs a exciting story line so i disagree and i refuse to sign the petition even though its killing me that merder is not together...HAPPY BIRTHDAY MCDREAMY..
January 17th, 2008 4:01 PM
I love that the show is dark again, its how it started. Think of the 2nd season with Denny and the bomb episode. Dark, I hated when they started to make it silly and funny, that is not what the show is about. When dramas start becoming about humor and comedy is when they lose the audience they originally captured. Look at the O.C. it became corny and silly and lost the "dark".
January 17th, 2008 4:01 PM
ok i am tired of people saying "you guys call youselves mcdreamy and greys fans" and "if you don't like what you are watching, don't watch."... we are expressing our opinions. we arent saying we hate the show we just want things to change, we arent going to stop watching it. we are just discussing what we want. so it really isnt fair to keep telling us to stop watching the show. we arent complaining we are just expressing our opinions.
January 17th, 2008 4:24 PM
I do agree with what most people are saying that the show isn't on par with where it was but I think it's still great. I have to say I'm surprised that people are only talking about Meredith and Derrek when one of the biggest character changes on the show has been Izzy. She went from being this sweet girl who was engaged to Denny and gave Alex a chance to this woman who will sleep with a married man and then three episodes later they aren't even together anymore? I just don't get it.
January 17th, 2008 4:25 PM
I signed the petition. I don't think it is about asking the writers to just blindly do what the fans want, but instead, to return the show to its roots. When written well, Grey's can be a wonderful, fun, enjoyable show to watch, but it hasn't been that for quite some time. There are some great moments, but they are too few and far between. Mer/Der is a mess and it needs to be fixed fast. I know so many people who are saying they are done with Greys. It doesn't have to be this way and I think that is all the petition is saying. So, I say yea, let's keep it up and get more signatures.
January 17th, 2008 4:28 PM
I read the whole petition and I agree with most of things involving the show itself. But I don't agree with them questioning Derek. They said that in a point of view, we want the McDreamy. True. But lets step outside the fact that it's a guy. How many of us, women have been in the Dreamy situation? Giving the best of ourselves to a man, and he just doesnt give it back?
We saw this man loving Meredith for 3 seasons and she always turns her back on him.
I love Derek and I saw myself in Derek's situation many, many of times. I honestly am really tired of Meredith. I know her life is complicated, I know that she's scared, and all that, but c'mon, it's been 3 seasons of her running away from everybody (except Christina).
Would you stay waiting for her? Let's be honest. It's hard. Here is this man, wanting to build a life with this woman. And he is dreamy enough to say it, to admit it and what does she do? Nothing. The only time that she wants to open to him is when he wonders about someone else. It's real life in a TV show, so lets' be fair... Wouldnt you wonder as well? Wouldnt you wonder if maybe there's someone capable of giving you the love you deserve?
Would you really just sit and wait for someone?
The show is really changed, and I do miss the good old days. I miss them together, I really do. But it's not Derek's fault.
He is Dreamy, and he'll always be, he is just human. ( if you know what I mean).
January 17th, 2008 4:40 PM
I would just like to say I read the whole petition, (which sounds a lot better then the excerpts above), and I totally agree with it. I love seasons 1 & 2, especially 1, and this last 'I can't do this anymore' deal with merder from the last episode is just annoying. I would hate to see them break up forever, but make up your minds! It is completely ridiculous now (and don't get me started on George and Izzie).
January 17th, 2008 4:45 PM
personally, I think derek needs to slow down with meredith. he said it himself-she has trust issues. He loves her so he should be willing to wait to start thinking about building a house with her. she's just not ready for it.
January 17th, 2008 5:09 PM
i agree mckenzie and rosehater. he knows that she didnt want all this and then he decides to build them a house the second they get back together. i think he knew she would react this way, so he took advantage of that so that hee would have reason to break up with her. plus meredith just needs to flat out grow up. they both seem like they dont love each other anymore. especially derek. he used to look at her so lovingly, but now hes just looking at her like he used to look at addisno when he was really ion love with meredith. i agree with what both of them said: derek "you cant trust anybody" and mer: "you dont want me. you want someone, you want someone who wants the same things you want." sorry for my rambling.
January 17th, 2008 5:21 PM
I agree with the Derek part of the petition but not the george and Izzie one, they are the reason why I watched the show last season and this one. Do I like how they got together? no, most Gizzie fans don't but at the same time they are flawed human beings and people make mistakes when they are crazy in love. All the characters made mistakes and I am glad George and Izzie are not perfect people, how boring would that be? I am much more upset about them breaking up because Shonda got afraid of the backlash and did not realize how many people loved those two together, that upsets me because after seeing how in love they were, their breakup felt like it was: a cowering out and a compromising of any writing intergity.
January 17th, 2008 6:43 PM
i'm actually getting tired of grey's anatomy, never thought i'd see the day. and i used to be obsessed with keeping merder toegether, and theyve split them up so much i've lost interest :(