Grey's Anatomy On TV: Schedule
"Crash Into Me, Pt. II"
Thursday, August 7, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.10)
"Lay Your Hands On Me"
Thursday, August 14, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.11)
"Untitled"
Thursday, September 25, 9 p.m. (NEW, 5.1)
Season 5 of Grey's Anatomy finally begins!
January 16th, 2008 4:26 PM
the petition is incredibly stupid. first of all in the beginning of that episode derek wanted to build a house with meredith, live with her, love her, and build a life with her. if anyone needs to change it's meredith, she's not growing. or maybe she is and her growing is moving so slowly that we hardly notice it. anyway she wouldn't be meredith if she weren't that dark. i agree some things need to change, but only with meredith, she can still be dark, but she just needs to grow a little bit.
the show is doing fine, the only thing that's really pissing me off is the writers strike, we can't even watch the show anymore due to the early season finale. so maybe we need to worry about that more.
either way my point is that the people signing the petition need to just let it go, the show is amazing, i love the way bailey's character and story line has developed. george has changed so much and he's learning more, i love hahn added to the mix. christina needs more of a story line but i hear that joshua jackson (total hunk) is going to be her new love interest, but in the last episode she actually did show a different side of her character when she held tuckers hand even though lexie offered to do it. we really need to figure out what's bothering alex, what experiences did he go through? what happened to him? i love that they're adding more depth to his character, they just need to keep the ball rolling and actually tell us what's up with him. and i love lexie, although she needs more of a storyline, i did love how they showed her struggle with her alcoholic father though.
anyways to contrast this whole petition thing and everyone's comments here, i'm just here to say good job on the show to everyone who works on it, and just consider making minor tweaks, not the big changes everyone is asking for.
they're asking for a big romantic love story between merder, but that's not what they're relationship is about, they're struggling, so let them struggle, it wouldn't be as interesting if they were together officially. and that's the whole point of the show, meredith's struggles, and everyone elses. so honestly if you don't like it, don't watch it.
January 16th, 2008 5:31 PM
no, it is not all derek's fault. but it definitely is partly his fault. "i want to be chief, and meredith complicates that" then he starts avioding her. so i agree that we shouldn tonly blame derek, but it is partly hjis fault.
January 16th, 2008 5:38 PM
Claire
Thank you! you took the words straight out of my mouth. Exactly what i have been trying to say.
January 16th, 2008 7:25 PM
When will the petition be sent to ABC / Shonda ? How many signatures before sending it to Shonda?
I heard the Ausiello's rerport today with some new spoilers about the show. Seems as if they were writing the next episode when the strike occurred. Cristina will start a relationship with JJ and Cristina will help Mer get over her split with Derek. Seems the split will last a while or until the conclusion of the Rose arc. Lets hope it ends SOON! We need to get rid of Rose and get Mer/Der back together!
January 16th, 2008 8:39 PM
I think that there are some serious problems with the show, and it goes beyond anything specific. I think Katherine Heigl said it best when she admitted Gizzie was a ratings ploy. Well, most ratings ploys don't garner LOWER ratings than the show previous. I understand that Grey's is in its fourth season, but CSI which is currently in its EIGHTH season doesn't pull things like that and they are currently beating Grey's in the overall ratings. Don't try to shock me all the time. If I wanted to be shocked and wanted my sensibilities challenged I would watch Criminal Minds (good show by the way).
January 16th, 2008 8:49 PM
I think the petition is a good idea if it works or not we have to speak up. The show has gotten way off base. I respect what Katie and Alicia are trying to do. Instead of just sitting back and complaining they are trying to do something constuctive. Right now it's considered the show with the worst writers block. The ratings have been going down pretty steady. If something doesn't happen in season 5 I feel like we might as well say goodbye to our favorite show. Attacking each other with words isn't doing anybody any good. Even some of the fun we use to have on sites like this is slowly disappearing. I think that is really sad.
January 16th, 2008 8:59 PM
I totally and completely agree with the petition and signed it the day it was put online. Because although the show is still amazing, it's not what it was in seasons 1&2. It's just not. 4.11 didn't make me cry. At all. I was...bored. =/ Was the Bailey and her son storyline heartbreaking? Absolutely. Was the Mer/Der break-up hard to watch? Definitely. But none of the sad, depressing storylines got to me like others have in seasons 1&2. They've just been sort of....flat lining lately.
Also, everyone needs to stop putting all the blame on Meredith or all the blame on Derek. Because they both screwed up a few times. They are both at fault! They've both hurt each other and it's not right to only blame one of them for their problems.
Derek's dating again. It's not like he just walked out on Mer and decided to flirt with a nurse. It's not like that. They both did things and said things and made their relationship the mess that it is. It took both of them to screw up the relationship and if you want to place blame, fair enough. But it's only fair to place equal blame.
Rose bugs the hell out of me, by the way. I don't think that it's even because I love Mer/Der as much as I do because Rose...isn't really a threat to Meredith and Derek. I mean, the only reason Derek's even interested in her is because she wants all the things Meredith isn't ready for. Derek likes the idea of Rose. He likes that things with her seem so easy and uncomplicated unlike with Meredith. But, to me, if being with someone is that easy and simple...then it's not worth it. The chase is....well, there is none. It's...boring. That's what Derek and Rose would be...boring.
And does she always have to be so happy? No one smiles that much. No ones that happy all...the...time. What about the engagement ring? Who wears their engagement ring around their neck a year after the engagement is over? It's just weird. I'm pretty sure I would hate Rose even if she had nothing to do with Derek...It's just her character....Derek really has nothing to do with it.
Because Lexie flirted with Derek in a bar and I wanted to kill her then but now....she's pretty awesome.
Chyler Leigh (Lexi) got death threats all over the internet last year when she hit on Derek in a bar. Lauren Stamile (Rose) makes out with Derek. She should definitely hire some body gaurds.
January 16th, 2008 9:09 PM
Well if Meredith doesn't want McDreamy, she can send him over HERE, where I would be happy to marry him/have his kids/have him build a house for us/grow old together/etc etc etc. Even though it's a TV show, you would think any "normal" woman would realize what a hell of a man Derek is and would grab onto him and not let go,and not give him a reason to go!
January 16th, 2008 10:56 PM
Congrats and good for you. I guess it's really easy for some fans to take the roll of apathetic bystander. To tell you, if you don't like what you are watching, don't watch. Well, we've all seen where the apathy gets us all in life. You show that you DO CARE about this show from the heartfelt petition you wrote and the fact that you care this much shows what a fan you are. EW weekly did a mid season report and where the shows stood overall in ratings a cople of weeks ago. Grey's was 5th in ratings based on the whole season so far. Last year at this time, it was first. Fans and critics have been lukewarm at best on this season. Sure, we can all take the stand of "if you don't like it , leave.." and then watch as this once beautiful show becomes one of those crap night time teenage dramas (and folks, it's heading there) So while I don't agree with the whole statement (especially on Meredith, she is not hated, it's just that many have chosen NOT to know the character and just jump on the bashing Mer bandwagon..I do not) I still wholeheartedly support your statement, your passion, the fact that you care, and your petition. I gladly signed and I thank you. Wish more fans were like you-so the show would finally improve in it's lacking quality. You did a nice job..I'm glad you care enough to not just "stop watching" I only hope that Shonda Rhimes can drop the ego and listen to the fans who put the show on the map. There's always a first time for everything after all....
January 16th, 2008 11:16 PM
FOR ALL YOU MER BASHERS- TRY AND DEFEND DER'S ACTIONS AS THE GOOD GUY!
First I love DER and I really love MER too (loved her on morphine) but please MER has told him time and time again that she has ABANDOMENT issues. (and rightly so-which he is aware of ALL the reasons!)
Let's count how many times HE has abandoned her. (the ones that I remember)
1. Picked ex-wife over her when she sticks her neck out first and tells him she loves him and "pick me, choose me" so cute! Doesn't even go to the bar to explain-just leaves her there drinking all night! MER forgives him!
2. She decides to be "friends with him & share the dog" so that she can hang on to the relationship and has to be friends with ADDI too. Meets someone- He is so jealous that he implies she is a whore and ends the friendship. MER forgives him.
3. Tells her "SHE has a choice to make because when he had a choice to make I chose wrong-I LOVE YOU"- TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED! Then HE decides for HER that Finn is the better guy and ends the relationship again.
4. She tells him she dumped FINN AKA " Well I choose you Derek-how about them apples" HE ignores her….. and sorry I need some time….. not really sure what I want anymore. She is gracious about it, take the time that you need with a smile.
5. As she is recovering from almost DYING/losing her MOTHER, starts to show signs of more confidence, intimacy and communication (even though she was a little smart ass about it)- DER -"I don't know if I can do this any more" "Breathe for you anymore" MER is devastated but comes back and tells DER that the accident has changed her-please stay!
6. Teases her with a weekend away (which I was really wanting to see) (which he could of used to reel her back in) Then he gives her that speech about he loves her, wants to marry her, have kids with her and "I KNOW YOU ARE NOT READY" BUT if someone else comes along soon â€"you might just be out of luck! GIVE ME WHAT I WANT OR I'LL DUMP YOU? Not the most romantic ending to "an I love you speech for your soul mate!"
I think MER'S character is growing and DER'S hasn't. (Not that MER'S character doesn't still have some growing to do) Maybe that is the point of Rose to force DER to Grow too and realize there is only MER for him even if he has to WAIT!
Why doesn't DER go to counseling with FINN/Christiana/IZZIE and try ….
"SHUT UP MER" " I LOVE YOU" and I am not going anywhere no matter what crazy stupid thing you say and give her a MCDREAMY KISS that makes her speechless! We know he has that talent! I think that he is going to have to prove to MER (and that is going to take TIME) that he is not going anywhere no matter how "dark and twisty " she is at times! Someone needs to remind DER about the VOW FOR BETTER OR WORSE since he is so set on getting married AGAIN!
DER has had a bad habit of running/pulling away when the going gets rough and not just with his relationship with MER.
Something for you MER BASHERS to think about!
January 17th, 2008 12:12 AM
merder fan, Meredith's not prefect either. She's made just as many mistakes as Derek.
January 17th, 2008 12:16 AM
Now that I have vented about MER.
I agree with season one and two. I loved every show! Season 3 -I loved a few shows and few scenes in a few shows. Season 4- loved the show with Lexie holding the guy's artery and MER telling DER not to date and HAhn to shut-up! MER's character is finally growing! I was pumped that this is the show that I fell in love with. I was so pumped for the last show and it left me empty too. There were a few great lines but the overall excitement was not there for me. I didn't even cry over the baby which was really sad! I just did not have the connection. This is what I am left with until the end of the strike? I was not happy! Some of my friends said that they were not going to watch any more. They were done! I am trying to keep them hooked for a little while by reading the blogs so they can vent. I don't know if the petition will work but it can't hurt! I am busy so the only show I watch is this one. I guess I can go back to CSI if they can't get it together.
January 17th, 2008 12:27 AM
I signed. I think it is a great idea. Grey's is STILL off track and the writers and ABC need to wake up.
January 17th, 2008 12:31 AM
Bright&Shiny I agree with you about the petition thing.
January 17th, 2008 12:32 AM
Jessica- Not a blind MER fan. Seriously, MER has done plenty of damage with her mistakes. I just get tired of everyone always blaming her. LIKE DER IS PERFECT! She is slightly more damaged than DER! Still love them together better than apart!
There is one of thing that I liked with FINN- he seemed to know how to handle MER better than DER. When to push and when to pull back and she seemed to respond better to him. The only problem is she loved DER her soul mate. I just hope Shondra realizes we will love the show more if they just let MERDER get together and no more break-ups. Just fight and the MAKE-UP! It is not like there will be no more problems for them once they are together.
January 17th, 2008 1:34 AM
See, here's the thing. I'm just as big of a Grey's fan as the rest of you but demanding that the show go your way is rediculous! Life isn't perfect, and would it be interesting to watch if there wasnt the dark conflict? NO then there would be no point in watching. I mean do we really watch it for the medicine? I think not. WE watch it for the relationship drama. Just let the writers do their work. Change happens. Life kinda sucks that way but really if you hate change so much I suggest going back to the dark ages where there would have been no Grey's Anatomy. Bubonic plague...but no Grey's
PS I know I'm one of few to say this and I'll most likely get shot down...But after that last episode I dont think that Mer and McDreamy belong together *winces for forthcomming torches and pitchforks* I really rather like Rose and I think a fresh face and a new perspective will be good for the show and for Derek.
January 17th, 2008 4:59 AM
Season 4 was much better than season 3. It is impossible for the writers to please everybody and I hate those shows where they do try that. (then you'll get something like season 3, with all the unfinished storylines)
So I just hope the writers do what they think is good. I have faith in them.
And I don't hate Rose. It's not her fault Derek is attracted to her and it's even less her fault HE kissed her.
January 17th, 2008 6:01 AM
meredith is the best and i will 4 one always be on her side even though i love merder derek is more to blame than derek
January 17th, 2008 6:18 AM
People are relentlessly stupid sometimes. Is life pink?!Or the fans are looking for a pop sensation, dettached from reality?! Meredith, Izzie, Alex, Cristina and George are leaving college, getting into the real world. The real world means good and bad, not perfect! And as far as Derek is concerned...i'm so sick of the mr. perfect kind of thing. has anyone even considered the reason why derek got so attached to dark and twisted meredith?!
January 17th, 2008 6:53 AM
I think the petition would have been better if the 'starter' would just have said 'bring merder back', instead of attacking Derek and attacking Shonda about the show.
Btw I don't know anymore who wrote it here, but it's no new spoiler that Cristina will hook up with Joshua Jackson.
January 17th, 2008 11:51 AM
So, here's the thing...I understand all of your pains and I know that I totally love MerDer together and happy and etc...however, as in real life, people cannot always wait forever for someone to change and be ready for that person to be with them. This is obviously the case between Derek and Mer. I hate the idea of Derek being with anyone else, because it just seems so obvious that they are meant for each other. However, since she isn't ready for all the committment and stuff, he has the right to look around. Who says he will stop loving her? You can love two people at the same time, even if it doesn't seem so. I am annoyed with Rose, but if it makes the plot continue on, then good for it. It would not be as interesting if Derek and Meredith were happy and together all the time. There has to be a degree of conflict between them until it is decided that they will stay together in the end...which I am hoping is what will happen. I'm pretty sure that the producers, writers (even though they are currently on strike), and everybody else knows that the fans want to see MerDer work out in the end, even if it takes some mistakes and other relationships for them to get there. Please keep in mind that it is way difficult to keep the show pleasing to everyone, especially admist this ridiculous strike that seriously needs to end. If we want the show to run for many more seasons, the happy ending cannot be reached yet. Like I said before, I truely do want and need MerDer to work out in the end, but that may not happen until the end...
Oh, and I must say that I respect this petition, but I almost believe that we should really begin a petition to end this writer's strike so that the plot line can be changed for the disgruntled viewers and so we can all have the show we know and love back on the air. This strike has got to end.
January 17th, 2008 12:23 PM
ITA with Claire.
I'm a fan of both but I'M TIRED to read that it's always Meredith's fault. Derek is a needy too and more than Meredith. Fans should realize it.
January 17th, 2008 12:24 PM
We need to believe in true love!!Since the beginning we believe that everything gone be ok with Mer and Derek,that love can't just die!!! It just not right, after the thing that happened with, they deserve to be happy!!
At real live this just not happen...it´s true!But we need to dream right? we need to believe something! Let them be happy! Mer knows that loves Derek, and the same happens with them! He said the she's the love of his live, that feeling can't just end like that!
January 17th, 2008 12:38 PM
Totally out of context...but get rid of that loud mouth Dizzie character and maybe the show might just move along...the problem with Shonda's writing...although I have been a fan of some of her stuff is that it is fluff...and not totally realistic...she comes from a different place than most of us - she is a single adoptive mom - that is not a bad thing - there isn't enough room here to totally expand - I like Shonda just not all her stuff. As for the writing ...it comes from the perspective of different writers so there isn't always a full connect of all that is the character, i.e. Meredith or McDreamy. It is different perspective of how people reacted in various instances or life events of the different writers making it happen on television. The production staff has to attempt some sort of consistency that is for sure. I watch very rarely now. I've actually taken up a class to avoid watching the show on Thursdays...sometimes I don't tune in anymore.
January 17th, 2008 3:17 PM
thank you nan-evy thats what ive been wondering for the past 5 days they usually put the whole happy birthday thing....wow....oh and i dont see wat derek did wrong..it's just that meredith is scared she didn't even want the whole huge comittment thing before she found out about rose and he said no to rose in the beginning..so he's right she will always find a reason not to trust him..and you guys call youselves mcdreamy and greys fans a true fan would not get all that mad because if they are together now thenit wouldnt be called a drama and shondas keeping the whole happy ever after thing til the end because that would be thethe end she needs a exciting story line so i disagree and i refuse to sign the petition even though its killing me that merder is not together...HAPPY BIRTHDAY MCDREAMY..