I did a typo, but I said you need to read The Advocate. Meaning the actual magazine lol. There is many things in their Heigl speaks about, and even in the Glamour magazine she speaks about what she did. Maybe if you weren't so biased, and full of intense hatred you might understand other's viewpoints without being mean about it. You do realize these are interviews about her. It's going to be about her. All interviews by celebs are some form of self promotion even Sandra Oh's. I just don't put of the actors/actresses on a pedestal. Heigl been in the business just as long or longer than Sandra Oh. She knows the business, and she has been bullied and she is a type of person who stands up for what she believes in. She hasn't backtracked on anything. Nor has she been hypocritical. She laughed once prior to answering her USA Today question. She didn't laugh afterwards. What's to say what type of laugh that was. Afterall that whole article was interpretated to a degree. Regardless in the film, just like Wow, said the word "f" is used in a poorly way. It makes the character who said, Debbie, look like a complete jerk. It doesn't make her look good it was part of the character's downward spiral in the film of realization about life. Which is why the word was probably kept in because it matched with what was going on with the character.
I think you need to take your own advice and become a wise person who will reserve judgement and can make their opinions known effectively when they know all the facts.....objectively without the need to do personal attacks and yelling.
me Says:
June 6th, 2007 11:50 PM
esther is lameeee =P.. katherine heigl is awesome.. don't hate =)
Esther Says:
June 7th, 2007 2:24 AM
Frankly speaking this is North America the last time I looked. We are all entitled to our opinions...for you to bash me for my strong opinions and then tell me I am biased, full of hate and bashing you, frankly that's insulting.
In order to for you to make such statements, you yourself need to define what respectfully disagreements are but if you become personal...telling me to take a chill pill, infuriated by my post, take a perspective, that I should be ashamed...etc., and to think I wouldn't respond - that is insulting. Read your posts. This isn't a debate you all thought you can censor me by telling me how to behave because I am not a KH fan.
I qualified from the first line...I am not a fan of KH and I stated why. Let me reiterate...here is why I am not a fan of KH...and by the way, neither do I yell at people, I use capital letters and exclamation points to emphasize my point, I will refrain from using capitals so you won't feel like I'm trying to intimidate you in anyway.
Like IW, KH had diarhea of the mouth. For anyone to think that she will come out of this unscathe after her comments, stance and posing by those who watched in dismay all the play by play from October to now. Then boom her movie is about to drop - do you think that contriteness and a simple sorry will "fix" it for her, you are insulting your own intelligence. Read all the posts connected to her...please my opinion is but one and mild in comparison to others.
For you to assume that I am a backwater fish, unschooled and unread and full of hate and biase...that just makes an ass out of you unfortunately not me. I know who I'm dealing with.
To Wow...that you "like KH due to her looks...", it was a valid question. There was no assumption there...I asked if you are influenced in giving KH the benefit of the doubt of her contriteness and about face on this debacle because she is good looking (comprehensive research says - good looking people can get away with murder)...and you have intimated that you certainly don't know her personally so you're not a personal friend and neither do I - that you are just a fan - so I asked the question what influences you.
Most of us have formed an opinion on KH...not solely based on her magazine interviews and AP news releases but also on her live interviews and her actions...here is where you can see a person's soul, morals and ethics it is unscripted it is just her. I have seen her many faces depending on what suits the situation.
For Well...Sandra Oh...dude you need to get you facts straight about her. There are oodles of write up about her...you may have missed a few start reading...including the fact that she has been acting since she was a 11 years old and the number of accolades and awards she has won. KH 13 or 14 years old I think. KH cannot move far enough away from Sandra Oh's intimidating shadow before you stop seeing the genius that is Sandra Oh. Even KH says she doesn't aspire for an Academy Award because she knows she doesn't have the acting chops to compete. Was Sandra Oh nominated for Best Supporting Actress Oscar...I'm not sure, I will have to check on that. Let's not compare...I know who will win on all fronts.
I hold no actor or actress on a pedestal ergo my opinion about KH.
"If you say your a Sandra Oh fan, then great then why don't you follow her example of "no comment"." No one asked me about KH...I am telling you what I think of her. Two different ideas.
I hold no grudges, I have found that I don't like KH...she epitomizes the double speak of Hollywood - it is ok to crucify IW for using the "f-word" but as long as the movie makes money who cares that it was used several times in the movie as long as it was used in the proper context and the person who used it suffered, JUST DON'T USE IT, eradicate the word. I would like to believe her but she hasn't illustrated differently. She is in a position of influence...pick her battles not do battle and when she is on the red carpet, she should step lightly and walk with a well paid PR agent.
Just don't assume that you know me. I am educated, well read, fair and very opinionated person. I worked in the entertainment business for 10 years...now I work in a financial institution that create the funds for big budget movies. I know what I speak of that is the bottom line.
Hi Says:
June 7th, 2007 5:15 AM
Hmm i am not going to say anything or make judgements on the above comments, however i have a question for Esther, since you are working in the entertainment business, is it true that PD and EP are doing any film together? i had the rumor but i am not sure if its true. Pls say yes and make my entire summer a happy one!
hafsa Says:
June 7th, 2007 5:28 AM
OMG!!! PD and EP? where? when? i need more information or any link pertaining that news!
Esther, get a life. As in IT DOESN'T MATTER. You are not part of the Grey's Anatomy cast so why do you need to bash KH?
EP FAN Says:
June 7th, 2007 9:41 AM
An Ellen Patrick movie! that would be cool. They click together, its soo natural. And I saw Moonlight mile for Ellen and life of the party.. she is really good. You have to see her in other roles to know how good she is. I mena I love her in GA, She totally brought meredeth to life.
Regardong KH, I always liked her on the GA ... but since recent months, it seems to me KH is the one stirring trouble on the GA set. Her thoughts about wanting to be paid same as the stars of the show (ED AND PD) is a bit too much. And her comments about the spin off, that it should have been hers... i think she's pushing it a bit too far. She's a good actress, really good and funny and all, but she should take it easy, everyone gets their chance when they do a good job the way their cast has been doing.
Some needs to get a life Says:
June 7th, 2007 9:58 AM
Esther, how can you actually say you don't yell at people when I have a exact quote from you doing so: "SELF RIGHTEOUS HYPOCRITE!" See people use exclamation points when they shout. And just because you work in some business deal doesn't make you right. You work in your own place, and you have no idea what happened behind closed doors in Knocked Up. You have no idea what occured there. You are assuming once again due to your biased, hatred of a fellow human being. Did you see movie Knocked Up in the first place? Because F word is not a joke in the movie as the two previous posters said. It is shown in a very bad light to the point a character apologizes for her behavior. It's used only twice in the film not not several times. For someone who is suppose to be well-educated you are not showing her knowledge of facts yet again, and do not know the context that word was used in the film. Which is why many people believe it was kept in due to making the character look poorly. Your fishing in a pond with no fish due to your intense hatred.
Also, using the actresses looks as a put down is really pathetic. On people you don't even know. And for the record you insulted everyone who disagreed with you first, and as I recall just because you well educated and are in certain aspects of the business doesn't give you the right to assume of me and other celebs. You are making assumptions right and left, and again not acknowledging why the word was used in the film. You seriously need to self-evaulate how you treat people with a different opinion.
CK Says:
June 7th, 2007 9:02 PM
Am I the only one who finds it really odd when people who chain smoke are advocates of organ donation?
Ceccia Says:
June 8th, 2007 5:25 AM
A smoker cannot promote organ donation awareness ? She's a heavy smoker yes not a good lung in there but organs include the heart, brain, eye, stomach, spleen, bones, pancreas, kidneys, liver, intestines, skin, uterus, and bladder.
sarah m Says:
June 8th, 2007 5:34 AM
seriously, if you guys dont like Katherine Heigl, then why are you reading her article...get a life losers!
GO KATHERINE! YOU ROCK!
Esther Says:
June 8th, 2007 6:08 AM
comments: sarah m
It is called the other point of view, it is the American ideal...remember the freedom of speech.
The loser is the person who after irrevocable proof the idol is hollow a mere statue with its surface painted in gold continues to worship and idolize what really isn't there.
I'm not sure...but who should really get a life?
hafsa Says:
June 8th, 2007 7:10 AM
OMG!!! this is becoming very personal... anyway not may problem but u guys just take it easy. Ok back to business my problem is how can i get any information on the so callled allerged PD and EP's movie?
Debs Says:
June 8th, 2007 8:35 AM
Hi Hafsa how are yoù?. Yeah a movie with EP & PD in it togehter would be SERIOUSLY cool i´d go 6 see it
Guest4ADay Says:
June 8th, 2007 1:36 PM
I have lost my respect for Katherine she has an agenda and it is so obvious. TR is her best friend and he needs someone to look after him and it's her.
This is stupid Says:
June 8th, 2007 3:18 PM
Esther. You say the Sandra Oh, not saying anything about what IW said and that it affected her more. BULL S**T. I believe being called the Fword affected TR Knight more. And Oh and other cast members not saying anything about it shows me that they just didn't want to get their hands dirty. At least some one said that it was Stupid and it did make an uproar. It needed to. The fword has been used in dozens of movie that have had box office success. Did you bocot them too. Or is it just this movie because of who starred in it. IF so you are the HYPOCRITE. Just to let you in on a little thing. The word will be used in many more movies. Until the whole world say something not just one actress who is in a movie with the word being used and on a show with an a** whole who has major issues with himself. You can't put that all on one person shoulders. It can't be done. Do you dislike all the actors and actresses that have been in movies that just slurs like the Fword? If not then you need to take a look in the mirror when saying the word HYPOCRITE. Just my point of view.
Carol Says:
June 8th, 2007 4:30 PM
Well, this discussion is interesting. in light of the fact that Isiah Washington has been FIRED from Grey's. Just read it on CNN.com
sarah Says:
June 8th, 2007 6:04 PM
ok...Esther. What ever about freedom of speech...my last post was MY freedom of speech GENIUS! wow...know WHO should get a life?
sarah Says:
June 8th, 2007 6:07 PM
and that was MY point of view GENIUS! GO KATHERINE HEIGL..."Esther" whos the one that needs to get a life?
sarah Says:
June 8th, 2007 6:13 PM
and "esther" did you seriously look up the word loser?????
KatherineHeiglFan Says:
June 8th, 2007 6:33 PM
YAYYY
congrats to her.
i seriously think you people get so mad when you hear her talk about IW in interviews!
think for a minute, the interview people keep asking the same questions. im on her side. shes very open & not afraid to say anything which is why shes my idol. She stood up for her best friend & you people are still hating her? What for? She isnt a mean person. Shes a human just like us. Like she even said "you shouldnt judge people by there race, orientation, color or looks".
Guest4ADay Says:
June 9th, 2007 7:04 AM
I hope they make it on screen and off in season four because I think there is at least one trouble maker if not more still left in the group. I see their head getting bigger with Isaiah's firing which will put more strain on the cast. I hope this is used as a learning experiance and everyone has more strict rules for conduct. Where I work we have a sheet we go ever year about code of conduct. We read it, discuss it, then we sign it so there are no misunderstanding later and there is never a complaint about freedom of speech. It is strictly inforced and it has helped keep a fun working enviorment.
Of course she's a hypocrite. She didn't hold back when she commented on the Borat movie. She uses people to self-promote. We'll just see if she actually gets married.
KATHERINEHEIGLROCKS Says:
June 9th, 2007 4:37 PM
go katie! you are the best actress EVER! You ROCK!
June 6th, 2007 11:25 PM
Well said Wow :).
I did a typo, but I said you need to read The Advocate. Meaning the actual magazine lol. There is many things in their Heigl speaks about, and even in the Glamour magazine she speaks about what she did. Maybe if you weren't so biased, and full of intense hatred you might understand other's viewpoints without being mean about it. You do realize these are interviews about her. It's going to be about her. All interviews by celebs are some form of self promotion even Sandra Oh's. I just don't put of the actors/actresses on a pedestal. Heigl been in the business just as long or longer than Sandra Oh. She knows the business, and she has been bullied and she is a type of person who stands up for what she believes in. She hasn't backtracked on anything. Nor has she been hypocritical. She laughed once prior to answering her USA Today question. She didn't laugh afterwards. What's to say what type of laugh that was. Afterall that whole article was interpretated to a degree. Regardless in the film, just like Wow, said the word "f" is used in a poorly way. It makes the character who said, Debbie, look like a complete jerk. It doesn't make her look good it was part of the character's downward spiral in the film of realization about life. Which is why the word was probably kept in because it matched with what was going on with the character.
I think you need to take your own advice and become a wise person who will reserve judgement and can make their opinions known effectively when they know all the facts.....objectively without the need to do personal attacks and yelling.
June 6th, 2007 11:50 PM
esther is lameeee =P.. katherine heigl is awesome.. don't hate =)
June 7th, 2007 2:24 AM
Frankly speaking this is North America the last time I looked. We are all entitled to our opinions...for you to bash me for my strong opinions and then tell me I am biased, full of hate and bashing you, frankly that's insulting.
In order to for you to make such statements, you yourself need to define what respectfully disagreements are but if you become personal...telling me to take a chill pill, infuriated by my post, take a perspective, that I should be ashamed...etc., and to think I wouldn't respond - that is insulting. Read your posts. This isn't a debate you all thought you can censor me by telling me how to behave because I am not a KH fan.
I qualified from the first line...I am not a fan of KH and I stated why. Let me reiterate...here is why I am not a fan of KH...and by the way, neither do I yell at people, I use capital letters and exclamation points to emphasize my point, I will refrain from using capitals so you won't feel like I'm trying to intimidate you in anyway.
Like IW, KH had diarhea of the mouth. For anyone to think that she will come out of this unscathe after her comments, stance and posing by those who watched in dismay all the play by play from October to now. Then boom her movie is about to drop - do you think that contriteness and a simple sorry will "fix" it for her, you are insulting your own intelligence. Read all the posts connected to her...please my opinion is but one and mild in comparison to others.
For you to assume that I am a backwater fish, unschooled and unread and full of hate and biase...that just makes an ass out of you unfortunately not me. I know who I'm dealing with.
To Wow...that you "like KH due to her looks...", it was a valid question. There was no assumption there...I asked if you are influenced in giving KH the benefit of the doubt of her contriteness and about face on this debacle because she is good looking (comprehensive research says - good looking people can get away with murder)...and you have intimated that you certainly don't know her personally so you're not a personal friend and neither do I - that you are just a fan - so I asked the question what influences you.
Most of us have formed an opinion on KH...not solely based on her magazine interviews and AP news releases but also on her live interviews and her actions...here is where you can see a person's soul, morals and ethics it is unscripted it is just her. I have seen her many faces depending on what suits the situation.
For Well...Sandra Oh...dude you need to get you facts straight about her. There are oodles of write up about her...you may have missed a few start reading...including the fact that she has been acting since she was a 11 years old and the number of accolades and awards she has won. KH 13 or 14 years old I think. KH cannot move far enough away from Sandra Oh's intimidating shadow before you stop seeing the genius that is Sandra Oh. Even KH says she doesn't aspire for an Academy Award because she knows she doesn't have the acting chops to compete. Was Sandra Oh nominated for Best Supporting Actress Oscar...I'm not sure, I will have to check on that. Let's not compare...I know who will win on all fronts.
I hold no actor or actress on a pedestal ergo my opinion about KH.
"If you say your a Sandra Oh fan, then great then why don't you follow her example of "no comment"." No one asked me about KH...I am telling you what I think of her. Two different ideas.
I hold no grudges, I have found that I don't like KH...she epitomizes the double speak of Hollywood - it is ok to crucify IW for using the "f-word" but as long as the movie makes money who cares that it was used several times in the movie as long as it was used in the proper context and the person who used it suffered, JUST DON'T USE IT, eradicate the word. I would like to believe her but she hasn't illustrated differently. She is in a position of influence...pick her battles not do battle and when she is on the red carpet, she should step lightly and walk with a well paid PR agent.
Just don't assume that you know me. I am educated, well read, fair and very opinionated person. I worked in the entertainment business for 10 years...now I work in a financial institution that create the funds for big budget movies. I know what I speak of that is the bottom line.
June 7th, 2007 5:15 AM
Hmm i am not going to say anything or make judgements on the above comments, however i have a question for Esther, since you are working in the entertainment business, is it true that PD and EP are doing any film together? i had the rumor but i am not sure if its true. Pls say yes and make my entire summer a happy one!
June 7th, 2007 5:28 AM
OMG!!! PD and EP? where? when? i need more information or any link pertaining that news!
June 7th, 2007 6:58 AM
Esther, are you IW?
June 7th, 2007 9:33 AM
Esther, get a life. As in IT DOESN'T MATTER. You are not part of the Grey's Anatomy cast so why do you need to bash KH?
June 7th, 2007 9:41 AM
An Ellen Patrick movie! that would be cool. They click together, its soo natural. And I saw Moonlight mile for Ellen and life of the party.. she is really good. You have to see her in other roles to know how good she is. I mena I love her in GA, She totally brought meredeth to life.
Regardong KH, I always liked her on the GA ... but since recent months, it seems to me KH is the one stirring trouble on the GA set. Her thoughts about wanting to be paid same as the stars of the show (ED AND PD) is a bit too much. And her comments about the spin off, that it should have been hers... i think she's pushing it a bit too far. She's a good actress, really good and funny and all, but she should take it easy, everyone gets their chance when they do a good job the way their cast has been doing.
June 7th, 2007 9:58 AM
Esther, how can you actually say you don't yell at people when I have a exact quote from you doing so: "SELF RIGHTEOUS HYPOCRITE!" See people use exclamation points when they shout. And just because you work in some business deal doesn't make you right. You work in your own place, and you have no idea what happened behind closed doors in Knocked Up. You have no idea what occured there. You are assuming once again due to your biased, hatred of a fellow human being. Did you see movie Knocked Up in the first place? Because F word is not a joke in the movie as the two previous posters said. It is shown in a very bad light to the point a character apologizes for her behavior. It's used only twice in the film not not several times. For someone who is suppose to be well-educated you are not showing her knowledge of facts yet again, and do not know the context that word was used in the film. Which is why many people believe it was kept in due to making the character look poorly. Your fishing in a pond with no fish due to your intense hatred.
Also, using the actresses looks as a put down is really pathetic. On people you don't even know. And for the record you insulted everyone who disagreed with you first, and as I recall just because you well educated and are in certain aspects of the business doesn't give you the right to assume of me and other celebs. You are making assumptions right and left, and again not acknowledging why the word was used in the film. You seriously need to self-evaulate how you treat people with a different opinion.
June 7th, 2007 9:02 PM
Am I the only one who finds it really odd when people who chain smoke are advocates of organ donation?
June 8th, 2007 5:25 AM
A smoker cannot promote organ donation awareness ? She's a heavy smoker yes not a good lung in there but organs include the heart, brain, eye, stomach, spleen, bones, pancreas, kidneys, liver, intestines, skin, uterus, and bladder.
June 8th, 2007 5:34 AM
seriously, if you guys dont like Katherine Heigl, then why are you reading her article...get a life losers!
GO KATHERINE! YOU ROCK!
June 8th, 2007 6:08 AM
comments: sarah m
It is called the other point of view, it is the American ideal...remember the freedom of speech.
The loser is the person who after irrevocable proof the idol is hollow a mere statue with its surface painted in gold continues to worship and idolize what really isn't there.
I'm not sure...but who should really get a life?
June 8th, 2007 7:10 AM
OMG!!! this is becoming very personal... anyway not may problem but u guys just take it easy. Ok back to business my problem is how can i get any information on the so callled allerged PD and EP's movie?
June 8th, 2007 8:35 AM
Hi Hafsa how are yoù?. Yeah a movie with EP & PD in it togehter would be SERIOUSLY cool i´d go 6 see it
June 8th, 2007 1:36 PM
I have lost my respect for Katherine she has an agenda and it is so obvious. TR is her best friend and he needs someone to look after him and it's her.
June 8th, 2007 3:18 PM
Esther. You say the Sandra Oh, not saying anything about what IW said and that it affected her more. BULL S**T. I believe being called the Fword affected TR Knight more. And Oh and other cast members not saying anything about it shows me that they just didn't want to get their hands dirty. At least some one said that it was Stupid and it did make an uproar. It needed to. The fword has been used in dozens of movie that have had box office success. Did you bocot them too. Or is it just this movie because of who starred in it. IF so you are the HYPOCRITE. Just to let you in on a little thing. The word will be used in many more movies. Until the whole world say something not just one actress who is in a movie with the word being used and on a show with an a** whole who has major issues with himself. You can't put that all on one person shoulders. It can't be done. Do you dislike all the actors and actresses that have been in movies that just slurs like the Fword? If not then you need to take a look in the mirror when saying the word HYPOCRITE. Just my point of view.
June 8th, 2007 4:30 PM
Well, this discussion is interesting. in light of the fact that Isiah Washington has been FIRED from Grey's. Just read it on CNN.com
June 8th, 2007 6:04 PM
ok...Esther. What ever about freedom of speech...my last post was MY freedom of speech GENIUS! wow...know WHO should get a life?
June 8th, 2007 6:07 PM
and that was MY point of view GENIUS! GO KATHERINE HEIGL..."Esther" whos the one that needs to get a life?
June 8th, 2007 6:13 PM
and "esther" did you seriously look up the word loser?????
June 8th, 2007 6:33 PM
YAYYY
congrats to her.
i seriously think you people get so mad when you hear her talk about IW in interviews!
think for a minute, the interview people keep asking the same questions. im on her side. shes very open & not afraid to say anything which is why shes my idol. She stood up for her best friend & you people are still hating her? What for? She isnt a mean person. Shes a human just like us. Like she even said "you shouldnt judge people by there race, orientation, color or looks".
June 9th, 2007 7:04 AM
I hope they make it on screen and off in season four because I think there is at least one trouble maker if not more still left in the group. I see their head getting bigger with Isaiah's firing which will put more strain on the cast. I hope this is used as a learning experiance and everyone has more strict rules for conduct. Where I work we have a sheet we go ever year about code of conduct. We read it, discuss it, then we sign it so there are no misunderstanding later and there is never a complaint about freedom of speech. It is strictly inforced and it has helped keep a fun working enviorment.
June 9th, 2007 3:26 PM
Of course she's a hypocrite. She didn't hold back when she commented on the Borat movie. She uses people to self-promote. We'll just see if she actually gets married.
June 9th, 2007 4:37 PM
go katie! you are the best actress EVER! You ROCK!