Grey's Anatomy On TV: Schedule
"Lay Your Hands On Me"
Thursday, August 14, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.11)
"Untitled"
Thursday, September 25, 9 p.m. (NEW, 5.1)
Season 5 of Grey's Anatomy finally begins!
"Lay Your Hands On Me"
Thursday, August 14, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.11)
"Untitled"
Thursday, September 25, 9 p.m. (NEW, 5.1)
Season 5 of Grey's Anatomy finally begins!
June 26th, 2007 5:39 PM
I just seen on Yahoo that NBC has stalled its talks about hiring IW. They better think long and hard about hiring that loose cannon.
June 26th, 2007 7:00 PM
I've seen a couple of different versions of the October incident. I tend to lean towards facts I see most often and from most credible sources. But the bottom line is - none of us were there. We DON'T know what happened.
What I HAVE seen first hand is the public behavior of ALL the cast...and I feel fairly comfortable forming my own opinion based on that.
I'm very interested to hear what IW has to say on LKL, but I really think he's digging his own grave. I think he went over the line when he brought other actors (PD and CW) into this. The majority of the cast has tried to stay out of this fiasco.
At least Shonda / ABC can blame S3 on something other than poor writing now...
June 26th, 2007 7:48 PM
I am getting sick and tired of hearing all these different versions of the incidents that happened, and oddly enough, they are all coming from the same person- ISAIAH WASHINGTON. I could not even read that whole article it was so upsetting. All he trying to do is blame it on other actors (PD and TRK) and it is only getting him in a deeper hole. People are all getting tired of hearing about what he has to say and are never going to believe that it is all of a sudden someone else's fault. I wish that people would stop giving him the press time and save everyone a great amount of time.
Oh and one more thing--- T.R KNIGHT SHOULD NOT BE FIRED. EVER EVER EVERRR!!!
June 26th, 2007 7:51 PM
No, justanotherGAfan, Isaiah did not get physical with Patrick. That was just another inaccuracy that has been perpetuated. Both Patrick and Isaiah as well as TR, James Pickens, Jr., Kate Walsh and even Katherine Heigl have said that it was not a physical altercation and nothing happened beyond words. So many people are passing judgment based on outright lies.
Nicola, what if TR Knight is the jerk for letting the press and the fans believe that Isaiah directed a slur at him when it simply wasn't true. It has seemed apparent to me from the beginning that Knight was using this incident for his own benefit at the expense of his castmate, the show, and the fans. What I don't understand is why he was allowed to do it. Why was Isaiah not allowed to comment on the incident but Knight could go on Ellen and spread his vicious rumors. If Dempsey confirms Isaiah's side of the story, Knight should be fired in my opinion and as long as he remains on this show, I will never watch another episode.
The comments on this thread make me really wonder. Why are you so quick to believe Knight and judge that Isaiah is not telling the truth?. How would you feel if you had been at the receiving end of so much hatred over someone else's manipulation of the truth. I cannot stand to even look at TR Knight. What a selfish jerk to purposefully let people believe that he came out because of something that Isaiah said when he wasn't there and it wasn't directed at him or about him. He took advantage of the situation for some media coverage. How self serving to want to advance your career at the expense of the people who work with you. Isaiah has withstood horrible, horrible comments made about him for absolutely nothing more than getting into an argument with Dempsey over Patrick's late arrival for a shoot.
I'm confused as to why Isaiah is going over the line by bringing out the truth when TR was not going over the line by going on national television and promoting lies. How is he a lose cannon for wanting to clear his name. I completely support him and hope that the truth comes out from a neutral source, such as Dempsey, so that once and for all we can put this to rest and so that people can see TR Knight for what he really is, not the victim, but rather the perpetrator of the majority of the problems. If Isaiah is telling the truth, and I believe he is, he is right. ABC fired the wrong guy.
June 26th, 2007 8:16 PM
Isaiah should stop talking about it? He just started talking about it. For 8 months he wasn't allowed to say anything other than that which ABC orchestrated. Now he is able to tell what happened. I have heard only one version of this incident from Isaiah and from Patrick. According to Patrick in an magazine interview he was on a phone in the production office and didn't realize they were waiting for him on the set. Isaiah was angry that Patrick had kept them waiting and called him on it. According to both men they got into a shouting match during which Isaiah told Patrick that he, Isaiah, was not Patrick's little f-word. TR was not there. According to Isaiah the word was not directed at TR nor did it refer to TR. It was a private argument on a closed set. It should never have never gone beyond the people involved, Patrick and Isaiah. TR went to the press with his public coming out in order to call attention to himself and promote his career and let the press believe that this onset incident led to his public disclosure of his gay lifestyle. If you listen to TR's statement, he never once referred to the onset incident, but by his timing allowed the media to make this assumption and never once bothered to correct it. Isaiah has further stated that TR wanted to expand his role on the show. It seems very believable lto me since that is exactly what has happened. He hasn't deviated from his story and to my knowledge has only given two interviews about it. One to his home town newspaper which was picked up by the Associated Press and the other to the online blog of the Black Gay Activists who have supported him throughout this fiasco. I'm tired of this too. Believe me. I was tired of it clear back in October because awful things were being said about my favorite actor on the show without any facts to back it up just rumor and inuendo. Awful accusations where leveled at Isaiah that just did not make sense considering his long history in the entertainment field without prior problems with the gay community. ABC orchestrated a reaction to the October incident on Oprah and many people chose not to believe it. I think Isaiah deserves the opportunity to clear his name. That is all he is trying to do. I'm so sorry that people are reacting negatively to it. If Isaiah is innocent of the things that have been slung at him, we should at least hear him out.
June 26th, 2007 8:35 PM
Didi, I really support what you are saying, maybe because I feel emotional about this too. He has already been tried and convicted by some of the fans of this show and certainly by some of the gay online gossip columnists. He has little to lose in telling his side of the story. I don't think he has any cause to sue ABC. They may have treated him poorly or failed to protect him from lies and media overreaction, but they do not have to rehire anyone they don't want to rehire. I don't think he has a case there. But if TR Knight purposefully mislead the press and manipulated the facts to promote himself and in the process caused Isaiah to lose millions in income and to suffer great anguist as a result of the media and fan reaction to an inaccurate version of the events of last October, he may have a lawsuit against Knight. I don't think he would have mentioned Patrick Dempsey if he had not spoken with him beforehand to be assured of his support. No one on the cast has said anything yet about Isaiah's interview because ABC holds their contracts. They will only be allowed to say what ABC wants said. It may not have anything at all to do with who they believe or what they think about the entire incident. Many have said Isaiah should not have been fired and that he will be missed. Patrick Dempsey, specifically has had many positive and supportive things to say about Isaiah since the whole thing began. I think they settled their differences minutes after the entire thing on October 9th. It is Knight who has continued this entire homophobe thing for months and months, even though there is no history or facts to support it.
June 26th, 2007 8:53 PM
I know you are tired of hearing from me, maybe as tired as you are of hearing from Isaiah, but I still want to say thank you to Donna, Didi, Sabrina, Dinofig, and Belgian Grey. Thank you for supporting Isaiah. He needs those of us who believe him to speak out. And, Hot4Dempsey, he is absolutely not trying to bring Patrick down. He is trying to show their solidarity. They respect each other. Have you read any of Patrick's statements about Isaiah? They have all been positive. He didn't make any negative statement about Patrick. All he is saying is that it was TR making it uncomfortable on the set and that Patrick can attest to that. I think he believes that the fans will believe Patrick even if they don't believe him. I hope that Patrick is able to confirm his version of the story, but am sure that Patrick is smart enough not to jeopardize his job on GA. He may have a little more leverage though because without Patrick there is no GA. Truthfully no one else is indispensible other than Patrick no matter who you support or who you love. I think Isaiah only referred to Patrick because he along with Isaiah are the only ones involved in the initial altercation who know the truth. It is a shame that he has to try to clear his name if he is innocent of the charges leveled against him in the media.
June 26th, 2007 11:31 PM
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD!
June 27th, 2007 12:05 AM
Ugh - I didn't really pay too much attention to this whole fiasco.
IW made a mistake, he got fired. Now it just sounds like he's complaining.
I don't think anything he can do will get him back on GA, so he should just move on and get over it.
If he really wants to get over it, he'd stop drawing attention to it and move on.
Personally, I find this whole thing to be a bit of a botched PR mistake that exploded -- and like Britney in rehab, I could live without hearing more about it.
June 27th, 2007 12:32 AM
It's not fair to expect Isaiah to just get over it! He's been carrying this heavy load and protecting everybody for nine months. It's time for him to unload. It's not fair! He's been the whipping boy for ABC and Grey's Execs. He's kept his mouth shout for Patrick Dempsey as well. It's unfortunate that his name has to come up in all this. But, what I don't understand is why people are upset about Dempsey being brought up. Why is it okay for Isaiah to be pissed on and lied on and used and fired and on top of all that still expected to keep his mouth shut about everybody,s part in it. They basically made that man bend over and screwed him with a broken bottle and then gave him an enema with powered glass and alcohol. Then after that still made him be quiet about the whole thing, patted him on the butt like a good little boy and sent him on his merry way. HECK, I'D SING LIKE A DOGGONE PARROT!
June 27th, 2007 2:01 AM
TR Knight said in several interveiws that IW said the f bomb to him directly now they are trying to spin it as "TR never said the remarks were made to him. yet alot of you poeple are still saying IW said it to him directly, also there was never a fist fight and if you beilieve IW story he was egged on by TR knight to confront PD because of his so called egosintrical behavior which lead to the whole incident in the first place. Why is TRK words just so stellar he has blatantly overblown the truth and in some instances flat out lied, he has used this to get ahead he also changed his story in the last few months yet IW who spoke no harsh words about his castmates kept his mouth shut about the incident and who was loyal enough not to speak of this(while other were smiling on TV talking about iit and him) until he was let go, the same man who for over 20 years has worked for gay rights who story has not wavered words draw other words like conspiracy theory and sour grapes.The proof of what IW said was in front of your eyes the whole second half of the season. No one else wondered how kooky ackward Goerge all of a sudden is super stud man? I did and that was before all of this "crazy" conspiracy talk. He went from being IMO the most expendable character to a leading man and all it took was another mans reputation and job.TR got a raise more screen time and a larger fan base. I guess if theres no "conspiracy" maybe he was just lucky that IW used the Fbomb and he just happend to be gay and knew some of the people there when it happend.
June 27th, 2007 3:31 AM
First of all: Thank you, greysanatomyinsider, that you don't let this die down! All IW's fans are interested in what is going on in his life, even if he is not a part of GAs anymore!
BurkeBacker: thank you, you are always expressing what I feel and think!
June 27th, 2007 6:17 AM
did anyone actually see tr knight on the ellen show? you'd notice if he was telling lies, or acting and he clearly wasnt, he was very reluctant in saying the f-word, and he doesnt seem like the kind of guy to be spreading rumors to up his image, its not like hes been in the spotlight long enough to understand it, hes a stage actor for chrissake and nothing like what hollywood is like now, and its not like hes shouted from the rooftops 'isaiah called me a faggot, fire him!', so i hope isaiah just shuts it and gets on with his life and lets tr get on with his
June 27th, 2007 7:02 AM
Y'all might want to see PD's statement from the last few days....it's quoted on the TWOP site...
June 27th, 2007 7:05 AM
Yeah, I thought it was weird that Isaiah mentioned Patrick, but who knows?? Maybe Patrick gave him the ok?! We don't know, so we can't judge! And Isaiah is the only one talking because he's no longer "loyal" to ABC. Patrick and TR still do, and that's probably why we don't hear much of their story!!
June 27th, 2007 7:13 AM
I can't find PD's comments on TWOP - am I blind?!!
June 27th, 2007 7:21 AM
Ok dumb question what is TWOP?
June 27th, 2007 7:21 AM
Right on Nicola !
To Sabrina, not only have you proven that you don't need good judgment to work in PR but it also seems to make you presumptious. How in the world do you know where I work ?
You don't get to decide who can comment.
Whether or not I work in PR, I say IW is a flaming idiot and he should keep quiet!
June 27th, 2007 8:03 AM
Yes I saw TR on Ellen and he said flat out, "I walked onto the set and heard Isaiah use the f* word to Patrick." But BOTH ISAIAH AND PATRICK HAVE SAID THAT TR WAS NOT ON THE SET THAT DAY!!!! so, personally, i think i am starting to believe Isaiah side of the story more than TR's.
June 27th, 2007 8:03 AM
Ok first thing, if T.R., Patrick or any other cast member had called Isiah the n-wrod, there would have been no hesitation in firing them to keep them from saying in front of a national audience at the Golden Globes. Obvouisly he deserved to be fired, and he is as stubborn as all the reports say he is, because he just won't drop it.
June 27th, 2007 9:12 AM
YALL JUST NEED TO LEAVE MY MAN ALONE!!!! HE AIN'T NO PUNK!!! THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS!!!
June 27th, 2007 9:52 AM
Christina Obvouisly your white, the n word, and nappy head hoes is spoken by whte americans with no big hoop dee doo, white american has done so long you all think nothing of it!!!!
June 27th, 2007 10:03 AM
I can't wait for the Larry King interview, hopefully, it will shed more light on the subject because he is in person rather than written words. I know people who have worked with Washington and think he is an upstanding man. GLAAD members have come out and totally supported Washington. One member even said Washington has done more for the gay community than Knight ever has. Knight has been lieing since the beginning. Knight was a struggling actor before Grey's and best believe he will do anything to keep and further his career - even if it means double crossing someone over. Heigl's career was pretty much crap before Grey's too (in Roswell she was horrible!!). I do think Heigl has proven herself (now) to be a good actress but her mouthing off was a media stunt too. The media will print anything that makes people watch their program or buy their print copies. Grey's cast members are not coming out because ABC will sue them. Morgan came out because he has no ties to ABC. ABC has a LONG history of being racist (they have fired over 5 black actors in the last two years for no "real" reason....ie "ABC has no comment"). CBS, FOX, FX, and NBC are fighting to sign Washington into contracts. Washington has two future films coming out. Grey's season 3 was BS in my eyes. I can think of maybe a handful of good scenes that stick out (izzie in the hallway and denny looking at her from beyond, burke's vows, the whole thanksgiving day episode). That's sad....because season 2 and 1 were AMAZING. Season 3's ferry arc was beyond stupid. Grey and McDreamy will they/won't they story line is beyond flatlined-already in the ground buried-8 years later old. Not to mention its a total rip off from Ross and Rachael but at least even them wouldn't break up every other episode (they'd more like break up every other season so they wouldn't piss off their fans). Grey's is crashing, which sucks, because that show could have been something amazing. Washington is lucky to get out while he can....then again Grey's could have been brought back to life if Washington was still in it!
Oh and Dottir, I know you are not in PR because you have clearly demonstrated you do not know anything about it. I also did not say you cannot comment on Grey's. I said you shouldn't comment on PR since you know nothing about it. But as usual, you jumped to conclusions about what someone said.
Dottir has clearly demonstrated how things can be twisted...kind of like the whole Washington situation.
June 27th, 2007 10:08 AM
when did they say that tr wasnt there on the set? and he said, on the ellen show, that isaiah reffered to him as a faggot and everyone heard it, and the way he said it, it just doesnt seem like a lie to me, honestly who would you be inclined to believe more at this point from watching interviews with both men, tr knight or isaiah washington, and i heard that this wasnt the first time isaiah has gotten in trouble, something happened onset of something he did years ago
June 27th, 2007 11:09 AM
People! I think you should all need to read the whole interview before judging IW! =/
I'm sad to see how this site uses only one small part of what Isaiah said to mislead readers! What happened, Insiders?????
PLEASE read the WHOLE interview before you judge.
It's much different than the impression given after you read what it partly said in this site. IW didnt blame PD or drag him to put any blame to him. He had good reasons as to why PD is right all along. Some people pointed to me that PD and TR's scenes together always look weird. I'm not sure about you guys, but I kinda see it too. I hope to see the truths come out at Larry King.
AND I'm seriously so upset about this site!!!! X/