Of course race plays a part in this. If TR had been a gay black person, there wouldn't have been a media frenzy, the actor wouldn't have been on Ellen, and ABC would have either kept both actors or fired them both. Another reason some of the posters want IW/Burke gone is because he is such a great actor, and the characters of Burke and Cristina were overshadowing the Mer/Der characters.
Cat Says:
June 30th, 2007 12:13 PM
Ok, I am now officially confused. Maybe someone who is supporting IW can clarify this for me. Is IW (and his supporters) claiming he was fired because of TR Knight's grand Machiavellian plot to take over Grey's Anatomy, ABC and Disney, or is he saying he was fired because of his skin colour? 'Cuz my head is spinning trying to figure out who or what exactly he is accusing of causing the great persecution of Isaiah Washington.
Dark and Twisty Lee Says:
June 30th, 2007 1:02 PM
For the love of GOD people, stop giving this jackass attention, he's just killing his career, wait, on second thought, keep giving him attention! Once he kills his career we won't have to look at the jack off anymore. GO LARRY KING!!
Echo Says:
June 30th, 2007 3:51 PM
It's a pitty.
The problem is that IW is too honest for his own good. Words such as nigger or faggot are a extremely common.
However puritan Americans try to ignore that simple fact. The only way to survive under the scrutiny of the American TV audience is to play it well.
Keep your mouth shut, ignore and deny.
That's exactly what IW is not able to do and it goes to show that the man is not afraid to say what others might think.
By trying to set the record straight he is only destroying his future because everyone, from his cast-mates to the bosses of ABC, are too busy trying to keep up appearances.
IW can't damage his career anymore than what some have already done. He is outspoken, but so is KH, but it didn't seem to hurt her career. The people who have been supporting him will continue to support him, and it's great that a reputable magazine is willing to hear his side; that's what good journalism is all about. You go Newsweek --I definitely plan to pick up a copy.
Didi Says:
June 30th, 2007 4:59 PM
You know, reading threads in so many websites for GA and seeing all the negativity & ugliness that has been stirred up on this issue I would be very be very surprised if GA lasted another 2 seasons. This would be tragic because though I would probably not be watching GA again I really admire Shonda Rhimes and feel for her right now as she watches the controversy and negative publicity the show has acquired. I could of course be wrong; season 4 could well be the best season ever who knows...but For me it will not be the same without the Burke/Christina pairing and I truly believe a huge void will be left with Burkes departure.
HoldTheElevator Says:
June 30th, 2007 5:03 PM
He just needs to shut up and stop playing the sorry black guy. I completely agree with anyone that says he's trying to turn the tables and become the victim!
John Says:
June 30th, 2007 7:57 PM
Isaiah Washington is wrong in so many ways.
1) He was the person who in the beginning made that comment about T.R. Knight. It doesn't matter if he wasn't talking to T.R. when he made, he said, and he did it twice. This shouldn't be turned around saying that people can't swear, or people can't speak their minds in America; they can, and they are. People at Grey's swear too (probably many fans have seen the bloopers video where are they say is f***, and sh**.) It's not about that. It's actually the opposite. Isaiah had, and has absolutely no right to act like a victim when he made a homophobic comment against T.R. It's entirely unethical and he set himself up since he did that.
2) Isaiah keeps digging deeper into the whole stressing the fact that a "black" man got fired. That is just hypocritical, because he was last year who was on Oprah praising Grey's Anatomy for having such a diverse cast and praising Shonda Rhimes for that. He, himself knows that it was not a racist decision. He was the one being disciminating of T.R. and of the people he represents.
3) When one is LET GO, not fired (because Isaiah's contract was over and Shonda Rhimes chose not to renew it) and especially after making news about continually denying homophobic comments against one of his own colleagues, it is best to keep your dignity. I dont know what's happening with him, my respect for him from the beginning of season three, to right now has dropped rock bottom. He needs to go on; he was let go, it wasn't a racist move like he's in a way trying to say, it's not T.R. Knight's fault when T.R. Knight was the one who insultet by Isaiah himself, it was Isaiah fault. He's a grown up man, he's not an unexperiences 20 year old guy, he needs to learn to accept this.
Well I guess it doesen't matter what anyone says, he will tell his side of the story, whether people like it or not, but I'm sure he appreciates that everyone is so concerned about him.
Looks like we all have the same problem of letting go. I guess that's why I've commented more than once.
Reebcca Says:
June 30th, 2007 11:34 PM
I think the whole problem is that people immediately assumed that he used the term 'faggot' in a derogatory fashion. In a way, people chose to take offence, especially after the media got a hold of it.
Why do people perceive this word as an insult instead of a slang?
The whole situation, that should have been wound up with an apology, a shake of the hand, and perhaps a 1 on 1 d&m between Knight and Washington has turned into a saga the media just can't get enough of.
Amanda Says:
June 30th, 2007 11:45 PM
Racism happens. so does homophobia. Nothing is completely fair in the world because of human nature. but i doubt he got fired because he's black. And look at the amazing black actors who work in hollywood. His actions and his attitude lost him his job. What he said was inexcusable. But had he not been a spoiled brat about it after the fact, he probably wouldn't have been sacked. its not conducive to any work enviorment to have one person freakin everyone else out. And i really don't think it was cuz he is black that he scared them. There is nothing scarier than a person with uncontrollable anger. Believe me i know and i don't blame those people for being scared of him. And by jumping to the conclusion that it was a race thing, just shows his own prejudice and ignorance. He himself obviously sees the world in black and white or how else would he have come to that conclusion. He is only feeding the fire that is racism and prejudice. And that is the true tragedy of all of this. Not a character being written out of a show. I am sad and will miss Burke on Grey's Anatomy, but i grieve more for the impact his accusations will have on society as well as our race.
iluvgreysanatomy Says:
July 1st, 2007 6:01 AM
I am in total agreement with Burke Backer!
With all his past interviews and watching T.R on Ellen...i just think all this has blown out of proportion and find nothing wrong with IW wanting to support his side of the story!! T.R. had his time in the spotlight now it's IW's turn! let the man give his point of the view. And he knows how him being colored has affected his career more than anyone else here seeing that he is the one to experience it!
Like I said, it's good that IW is telling his side of the story, because once again I'm hearing the media talking or maybe I missed it. But I don't recall a cast or crew member, etc. being interviewed who said that they were afraid of IW. IW is not an angry man, he's a man with a temper; there's a difference. I've worked with both and thats how I know.
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Deron G. Says:
July 1st, 2007 9:04 AM
Yeah, this has everything to do with race. Nine times out of ten, when you see a prominent black male that's a threat to ANY establish, people either assassinate him or his character...
Your Mom Says:
July 1st, 2007 3:55 PM
I think this is lame and pathetic, personally.
I won't miss Dr. Burke - I thought he was an arrogant ass anyway. :D
JF Says:
July 1st, 2007 4:14 PM
I can't believe some of the comments on here.
The guy is an asshole that physically assaulted a coworker and used hateful slurs. That's grounds for dismissal in most work places, not just on a tv set. Many companies have commitments to creating a "safe and comfortable" working environment for the employees, and good for them. If another employee had attacked a coworker and referred to a black co-star as a 'nigger', wouldn't they have been fired as well? It has nothing to do with him being black and everything to do with a history of aggressive and ignorant behavior.
And for those of you insisting that homosexuality is some kind of lifestyle "choice" - please join modern society. People are born gay just like they are born black or female or blue-eyed or possessing any other random genetic characteristic.
disagree Says:
July 1st, 2007 6:00 PM
God "created" black or female or blue-eyed or any other random genetic characteristic. He planned in the beginning to "create" these different kinds of people. He did not "create" gays. It wasn't in His plan, and it isn't now. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. God does not change. People change, llifesyles change, government changes. But not God or His "orignal plan" for human kind. So in other words we need to tell the creator that wakes us up every morning (and doesn't have to, by the way) that there's been some changes in his blueprint and that He needs to get with the program and join modern society, because evidently He didn't know what He was doing!
JF Says:
July 1st, 2007 8:02 PM
Seriously?
So, presuming there is a god that created the universe, why do many homosexuals realize they are gay from childhood? Why is homosexuality rampant in the animal kingdom?
I am baffled that some seem to think that individuals wake up one morning and "choose" to be gay.
I've never been able to choose who I fall in love with - it's just happened through the natural growth of a relationship with another human being.
meme Says:
July 1st, 2007 9:21 PM
huhhhh......The main reason why he is gone is because of his color.There is nothing more that he can say because they wanted him gone from the start.It's sad that he keeps digging a hole,he will never get hired again.Seems like most people for- get how racial the world can be,"NIGGERS DON"T GET SECOND CHANCES". I'm so sure that he knows the frist time you mess up being black it is over so why even go there.He also said he didn't walk around saying no sir and yes sir,but he wasn't suppose to say shit.I know that most of HOLLYWOOD knows that dark sink is out so it is time to get replace by a light skin black.I think that the whole show should be canceled.
Jilly Says:
July 2nd, 2007 12:40 AM
IW is really coming off as a whiny jerk. SO you lost your job because of a mistake you made. Get over it. And don't try to blame your race. Whoever plays Bailey is black, I don't see her whining. Shonda is black. And she probably had say over if you stayed or went. And Sandra is also a minority. I don't see her whining either. What a pathetic guy. He's acting like a 5 year old. I didn't have an opinion of IW before, but now it's definately a negative one.
Grey fan Says:
July 2nd, 2007 5:00 AM
Seriously!! thia guy needs help. He is doing everything to make te show look bad now that he's out. He needs help... lots of it.
Mark Says:
July 2nd, 2007 5:02 AM
He is one crazy man. he wants attention, badly.
He is soo meesed up. Millions of people get fired from their jobs every day for much simpler reasons. He shold get a life and move on. and leave Grey anatomy out of it.
Last I heard we still had a right to express our opinion; then again I guess that may change too. It's rather funny that some people want him to shut up, but they can't do it themselves. (LOL)
June 30th, 2007 11:16 AM
Of course race plays a part in this. If TR had been a gay black person, there wouldn't have been a media frenzy, the actor wouldn't have been on Ellen, and ABC would have either kept both actors or fired them both. Another reason some of the posters want IW/Burke gone is because he is such a great actor, and the characters of Burke and Cristina were overshadowing the Mer/Der characters.
June 30th, 2007 12:13 PM
Ok, I am now officially confused. Maybe someone who is supporting IW can clarify this for me. Is IW (and his supporters) claiming he was fired because of TR Knight's grand Machiavellian plot to take over Grey's Anatomy, ABC and Disney, or is he saying he was fired because of his skin colour? 'Cuz my head is spinning trying to figure out who or what exactly he is accusing of causing the great persecution of Isaiah Washington.
June 30th, 2007 1:02 PM
For the love of GOD people, stop giving this jackass attention, he's just killing his career, wait, on second thought, keep giving him attention! Once he kills his career we won't have to look at the jack off anymore. GO LARRY KING!!
June 30th, 2007 3:51 PM
It's a pitty.
The problem is that IW is too honest for his own good. Words such as nigger or faggot are a extremely common.
However puritan Americans try to ignore that simple fact. The only way to survive under the scrutiny of the American TV audience is to play it well.
Keep your mouth shut, ignore and deny.
That's exactly what IW is not able to do and it goes to show that the man is not afraid to say what others might think.
By trying to set the record straight he is only destroying his future because everyone, from his cast-mates to the bosses of ABC, are too busy trying to keep up appearances.
It's sad... But that's just the way it goes.
June 30th, 2007 4:17 PM
IW can't damage his career anymore than what some have already done. He is outspoken, but so is KH, but it didn't seem to hurt her career. The people who have been supporting him will continue to support him, and it's great that a reputable magazine is willing to hear his side; that's what good journalism is all about. You go Newsweek --I definitely plan to pick up a copy.
June 30th, 2007 4:59 PM
You know, reading threads in so many websites for GA and seeing all the negativity & ugliness that has been stirred up on this issue I would be very be very surprised if GA lasted another 2 seasons. This would be tragic because though I would probably not be watching GA again I really admire Shonda Rhimes and feel for her right now as she watches the controversy and negative publicity the show has acquired. I could of course be wrong; season 4 could well be the best season ever who knows...but For me it will not be the same without the Burke/Christina pairing and I truly believe a huge void will be left with Burkes departure.
June 30th, 2007 5:03 PM
He just needs to shut up and stop playing the sorry black guy. I completely agree with anyone that says he's trying to turn the tables and become the victim!
June 30th, 2007 7:57 PM
Isaiah Washington is wrong in so many ways.
1) He was the person who in the beginning made that comment about T.R. Knight. It doesn't matter if he wasn't talking to T.R. when he made, he said, and he did it twice. This shouldn't be turned around saying that people can't swear, or people can't speak their minds in America; they can, and they are. People at Grey's swear too (probably many fans have seen the bloopers video where are they say is f***, and sh**.) It's not about that. It's actually the opposite. Isaiah had, and has absolutely no right to act like a victim when he made a homophobic comment against T.R. It's entirely unethical and he set himself up since he did that.
2) Isaiah keeps digging deeper into the whole stressing the fact that a "black" man got fired. That is just hypocritical, because he was last year who was on Oprah praising Grey's Anatomy for having such a diverse cast and praising Shonda Rhimes for that. He, himself knows that it was not a racist decision. He was the one being disciminating of T.R. and of the people he represents.
3) When one is LET GO, not fired (because Isaiah's contract was over and Shonda Rhimes chose not to renew it) and especially after making news about continually denying homophobic comments against one of his own colleagues, it is best to keep your dignity. I dont know what's happening with him, my respect for him from the beginning of season three, to right now has dropped rock bottom. He needs to go on; he was let go, it wasn't a racist move like he's in a way trying to say, it's not T.R. Knight's fault when T.R. Knight was the one who insultet by Isaiah himself, it was Isaiah fault. He's a grown up man, he's not an unexperiences 20 year old guy, he needs to learn to accept this.
June 30th, 2007 9:21 PM
Well I guess it doesen't matter what anyone says, he will tell his side of the story, whether people like it or not, but I'm sure he appreciates that everyone is so concerned about him.
June 30th, 2007 9:48 PM
Looks like we all have the same problem of letting go. I guess that's why I've commented more than once.
June 30th, 2007 11:34 PM
I think the whole problem is that people immediately assumed that he used the term 'faggot' in a derogatory fashion. In a way, people chose to take offence, especially after the media got a hold of it.
Why do people perceive this word as an insult instead of a slang?
The whole situation, that should have been wound up with an apology, a shake of the hand, and perhaps a 1 on 1 d&m between Knight and Washington has turned into a saga the media just can't get enough of.
June 30th, 2007 11:45 PM
Racism happens. so does homophobia. Nothing is completely fair in the world because of human nature. but i doubt he got fired because he's black. And look at the amazing black actors who work in hollywood. His actions and his attitude lost him his job. What he said was inexcusable. But had he not been a spoiled brat about it after the fact, he probably wouldn't have been sacked. its not conducive to any work enviorment to have one person freakin everyone else out. And i really don't think it was cuz he is black that he scared them. There is nothing scarier than a person with uncontrollable anger. Believe me i know and i don't blame those people for being scared of him. And by jumping to the conclusion that it was a race thing, just shows his own prejudice and ignorance. He himself obviously sees the world in black and white or how else would he have come to that conclusion. He is only feeding the fire that is racism and prejudice. And that is the true tragedy of all of this. Not a character being written out of a show. I am sad and will miss Burke on Grey's Anatomy, but i grieve more for the impact his accusations will have on society as well as our race.
July 1st, 2007 6:01 AM
I am in total agreement with Burke Backer!
With all his past interviews and watching T.R on Ellen...i just think all this has blown out of proportion and find nothing wrong with IW wanting to support his side of the story!! T.R. had his time in the spotlight now it's IW's turn! let the man give his point of the view. And he knows how him being colored has affected his career more than anyone else here seeing that he is the one to experience it!
July 1st, 2007 6:45 AM
Like I said, it's good that IW is telling his side of the story, because once again I'm hearing the media talking or maybe I missed it. But I don't recall a cast or crew member, etc. being interviewed who said that they were afraid of IW. IW is not an angry man, he's a man with a temper; there's a difference. I've worked with both and thats how I know.
July 1st, 2007 9:02 AM
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July 1st, 2007 9:04 AM
Yeah, this has everything to do with race. Nine times out of ten, when you see a prominent black male that's a threat to ANY establish, people either assassinate him or his character...
July 1st, 2007 3:55 PM
I think this is lame and pathetic, personally.
I won't miss Dr. Burke - I thought he was an arrogant ass anyway. :D
July 1st, 2007 4:14 PM
I can't believe some of the comments on here.
The guy is an asshole that physically assaulted a coworker and used hateful slurs. That's grounds for dismissal in most work places, not just on a tv set. Many companies have commitments to creating a "safe and comfortable" working environment for the employees, and good for them. If another employee had attacked a coworker and referred to a black co-star as a 'nigger', wouldn't they have been fired as well? It has nothing to do with him being black and everything to do with a history of aggressive and ignorant behavior.
And for those of you insisting that homosexuality is some kind of lifestyle "choice" - please join modern society. People are born gay just like they are born black or female or blue-eyed or possessing any other random genetic characteristic.
July 1st, 2007 6:00 PM
God "created" black or female or blue-eyed or any other random genetic characteristic. He planned in the beginning to "create" these different kinds of people. He did not "create" gays. It wasn't in His plan, and it isn't now. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. God does not change. People change, llifesyles change, government changes. But not God or His "orignal plan" for human kind. So in other words we need to tell the creator that wakes us up every morning (and doesn't have to, by the way) that there's been some changes in his blueprint and that He needs to get with the program and join modern society, because evidently He didn't know what He was doing!
July 1st, 2007 8:02 PM
Seriously?
So, presuming there is a god that created the universe, why do many homosexuals realize they are gay from childhood? Why is homosexuality rampant in the animal kingdom?
I am baffled that some seem to think that individuals wake up one morning and "choose" to be gay.
I've never been able to choose who I fall in love with - it's just happened through the natural growth of a relationship with another human being.
July 1st, 2007 9:21 PM
huhhhh......The main reason why he is gone is because of his color.There is nothing more that he can say because they wanted him gone from the start.It's sad that he keeps digging a hole,he will never get hired again.Seems like most people for- get how racial the world can be,"NIGGERS DON"T GET SECOND CHANCES". I'm so sure that he knows the frist time you mess up being black it is over so why even go there.He also said he didn't walk around saying no sir and yes sir,but he wasn't suppose to say shit.I know that most of HOLLYWOOD knows that dark sink is out so it is time to get replace by a light skin black.I think that the whole show should be canceled.
July 2nd, 2007 12:40 AM
IW is really coming off as a whiny jerk. SO you lost your job because of a mistake you made. Get over it. And don't try to blame your race. Whoever plays Bailey is black, I don't see her whining. Shonda is black. And she probably had say over if you stayed or went. And Sandra is also a minority. I don't see her whining either. What a pathetic guy. He's acting like a 5 year old. I didn't have an opinion of IW before, but now it's definately a negative one.
July 2nd, 2007 5:00 AM
Seriously!! thia guy needs help. He is doing everything to make te show look bad now that he's out. He needs help... lots of it.
July 2nd, 2007 5:02 AM
He is one crazy man. he wants attention, badly.
He is soo meesed up. Millions of people get fired from their jobs every day for much simpler reasons. He shold get a life and move on. and leave Grey anatomy out of it.
July 2nd, 2007 6:55 AM
Last I heard we still had a right to express our opinion; then again I guess that may change too. It's rather funny that some people want him to shut up, but they can't do it themselves. (LOL)