Grey's Anatomy On TV: Schedule
"Crash Into Me, Pt. II"
Thursday, August 7, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.10)
"Lay Your Hands On Me"
Thursday, August 14, 9 p.m. (repeat, episode 4.11)
"Untitled"
Thursday, September 25, 9 p.m. (NEW, 5.1)
Season 5 of Grey's Anatomy finally begins!
June 29th, 2007 12:30 PM
O.K., didn't IW get fired because he made a homophobic slur which could be construed as racism and now he is claiming he was fired because of his race???? His firing isn't about his race it is about him making a racial remark - HELLO!!!! I agree with Cat, he is a lunatic. Just from his comments alone regarding not talking like he just came from the plantation - couldn't that be construed as a racial comment in itself!!!! I'm sure if someone other than a black person made that comment Jesse Jackson would be ringing their doorbell!!!! This jerk is just full of pathetic comments and the bottom line is he is not taking accountability for his own actions. Did he not think before the Golden Globes incident when he spouted off on national TV - what did he think that after that mess ABC would give him a hug and renew his contract????? This guy is not living in reality! I agree with ABC for not releasing a reply because such stupid remarks really don't dignify a reply. IW is an idiot and doesn't know when to shut his trap - whether you are black or white is irrelevant - he is obviously a person with issues who needs to go back to counseling. What is he going to spout off at next - a spaceship came and took him to another planet. Move over Anne Heche - there is another lunatic on the block!!!!!
June 29th, 2007 12:51 PM
Grey's Fan, being gay is NOT a race. Thus, it is not a racist remark. Washington did not call Knight a faggot. He called Dempsey one, out of anger, not as a slur. A black person commenting on plantation workers and speech is not a racist comment, especially from a BLACK person. He has clearly taken accountability. He admitted to saying the word, but not in the context you and others are so convinced he has used it in.
He did not call someone a faggot twice. The second time he used it in an explanation. That's like a little child saying "daddy said sh*t...that's a bad word." The child clearly was not saying the bad word in a bad context but rather as an explanation.
If you are going to call someone an idiot, you should look at what you write before doing so.
June 29th, 2007 12:55 PM
All I have to say about Isiah is that he is bunch of bull and he knows it! Isiah did not get fired because of racism. Excuse me, there are bunch of other different races on that show and they didn' t get fire because of their race. He got fired for calling TR a REALLY bad name. Who cares if TR is gay and even if he isn't, still who cares. TR is SO ADORABLE and SWEET! That I just want to give him a BIG HUGE hug! Please, Isiah do us all a favor and GROW the f*ck up and also start showing more respect,too. Respect goes both aways and also what goes around comes around...so you got what you deserve!
June 29th, 2007 12:56 PM
Also, another thing...LEAVE TR ALONE! He did NOTHING to you!
June 29th, 2007 2:06 PM
Hey-what happened to forgiveness? I don't understand why everyone can't see that IW is sorry for what he did and has tried to show his regret for what happened. I think that GA is a great show and without Dr. Burke back-it definitely will bring the show down! I strongly believe that if TR can get sympathy for being gay-IW might as well use his race to get sympathy! I am totally for IW-mainly because the show definitely needs his amazing talent and character to make the show a success!
June 29th, 2007 2:16 PM
I enjoyed Mr. Washington's portrayal of Dr. Burke.
Since I am unacquainted with all of the individuals involved, I cannot make statements of fact (like many posters have), just my personal beliefs.
Belief 1: Mr. Washington twice showed poor judgment by using a slur (once in his workplace, which would see many "regular" workers disciplined or fired), and the second time on TV.
Belief 2: Mr. Washington's employer did not fire him. Mr. Washington's contract term had expired, and his employer declined to offer him another contract.
Belief 3: Mr. Washington appears to have lost a great gig, and is casting about for others upon whom to blame his circumstances. If he wants to know whom to blame, he might want to examine his mirror when he shaves. It's amazing that a grown man could blame a coworker (Mr. Knight) for some bizarre Machiavellian scheme rather than just say "I screwed up. It was a great gig. I regret it."
June 29th, 2007 2:21 PM
It's funny to me how IW fans, in their desperate attempt to prove TR achieved his "objectives," think that the whole controversy had something to do with George suddenly getting more screen time and becoming, as one poster put it, "a big heterosexual magnet." How do they even make such a bizarre connection?
And Belgian_grey: Please don't be so quick to judge America. Yes, America has persistent racial, as well as other social problems, but so does EVERY other country in the world. Show me one country in the world where people of different color, race, religion etc live in perfect harmony. Even in Belgium, where I assume you hail from, there's a continuing tension between the native population and the muslim immigrants. Yes, America has a lot of faults, but I think it's safe to say a qualified, educated and motivated immigrant, regardless of his/her race, has a much higher chance of succeeding here than Belgium or any european country.
June 29th, 2007 2:45 PM
i think that it was sad that abc let washington go. he said something that was harmful and he apologized for it and did commercials for GLAAD. i think that the show may suffer from his absence on the show. i was really looking forward to his and christina's wedding. they had such good chemistry on the show!! but bc he has a big mouth they have to replace him!! :(
June 29th, 2007 2:49 PM
as far as im concerned... i think that it was a stupid idea to fire i.w from the show, i strongly believe that the show will never be the same. but as for i.w sayng what he said... it wasnt the best thing to say, but as you all know that word has been thrown around so much that it has become a part of the slang language for "suck" "womps" or "ridiculous" as for the word "fag" in some slang it means "cigaratte" hell its the name of a meatball for Christ sake!!! it could mean tons of things he might have ben talking about firewood. he could have just implied weakness or he might have complained about someone overdressing or even carring a bit to much about their apearance. all im saing is that if the conversation was between i.w and patric.. noone has the right to say anything seing that they didnt hear the whole conversation. asfar as the racial card goes... its pathetic to even pay that card. its over played! if i were to play any card it would be the good ol dictionary card! it always works best!then if all else faild spend some money on the offended.
June 29th, 2007 3:03 PM
White privilege is so blinding!
Look at this way: Knight and Washington are in similar situations now. In a room full of people, Knight and Washington will feel the same pressure; some people in the room will feel uncomfortable by the fact that Washington is Black, and others will feel uncomfortable that Knight is gay. Both Knight and Washington will choose to be careful how they express themselves, and they will (and probably have their entire lives) try to avoid "stepping on toes." They both are who they are, and it's sickening that either would have to feel uncomfortable about one simple part of who they are. Now, who is at more fault?
Also, what about Ann Coulter? She has used the "F" word on national television at least once, but because she is an upper-class, white woman, how much grief does she get? People laughed when she said it, and she didn't do it out of anger. Ann Coulter probably suffers from an actual case of homophobia, but Washington gets fired because he's not a rich white woman?
June 29th, 2007 3:07 PM
faggot is not a color! it's a strong word for punk! i respect TR as a person. i do not respect his sexual orientation! i respect homosexuals as people. i don't have to respect what they do in their bedrooms.
June 29th, 2007 3:32 PM
It's growing increasingly harder to respect IW. There is a pont when we have to hold our heads up with class and dignity and sometimes....just walk away. He needs to learn how to take things like a man.
Pulling the race card is as dispicable as using the term faggot in reference to another person.
Shonda Rhimes is a black woman; two factors that have made it fairly difficult up until recent times to be accepted and respected in Hollywood. There seems to be no evidence to the contrary that she's not both highly successful and deeply respected by the industry and her peers.
I've always stated that while i was saddened to see such a talented actor let go from the show, I also agreed with it. His statements of late are proof that it was perhaps the right decision.
June 29th, 2007 4:11 PM
I hate to admit it, but until this moment I did not know this had happened.
I have loved Grey's from day 1 and I have always liked Burke's character, but only on the show. I was shocked to hear the news and wasn't sure of a reaction, but after reading the article above I am sad to read that the race card is being thrown yet again when something happens to a black person. I make no apologies, but I do not and will not use African American since that makes absolutely NO sense to me and I am of that race.
Back to my point: To blame race is insane and if anyone pays attention to the media much how many times does Jesse Jackson or the Rev. Al Sharpton show up at ANY possible race event? Hell, this past week Al Sharpton got involved in Paris Hilton's jail stint since it was an injustice to black people.
I hope that Grey's can survive this since the cast, being so diverse is what really mixed the show up to be different than any other show on TV. I am not disappointed in Grey's for this decision, but rather for the direction they have the show heading.
For those of us that are such Mer/Der fans they are tearing them apart, Chris didn't get married and I hope that they do not opt for the lesbian story line as was mentioned for season 2. I do not see why every show HAS to include a gay character to make it politically correct.
Again, I am sad to see the cast change, but now that I have read the details I am not sad, but upset with IW for not doing the right thing, using the "F" word more than once and now blaming everyone except himself.... that's what my children do!!
Does ACCOUNTIBILITY mean anything anymore? OH, that's right, no one is responsible for anything anymore! I almost forgot!
June 29th, 2007 4:15 PM
This is getting pathetic. Isaiah is just making up every excuse that pops into his head to make the public feel sympathetic towards his situation. I am shocked that someone with such talent would stoop to an all-time low, accusing racism as to why ABC will not forgive him. He really has to face the facts and realize the only reason ABC fired him was because of the use of such an outrageous profanity towards a castmate.
June 29th, 2007 4:29 PM
It makes me sick how we as a naton founded under god cater to such immoral people as the gay community. I personally don't think they should have rights at all. It will be the down fall of America to allow these people to adopt children and recognize them as a family. Why is everyone so scared to say what they feel? But that's another story. I think IW was great for the show although I don't agree with his view on race.
June 29th, 2007 4:45 PM
It is a shame that so many people resort to name calling when this is a place to respond to the issues. The issue at hand is that IW was fired for his actions. Would a white actor have been fired for these same actions? I doubt it. Lindsey Lohan has just been arrested for her third accident in two years in which she was found under the influence of alcohol, and with cocaine in the car. Somehow, she still gets work. Jim Carey has been known to be a very difficult actor to work with and yet his skills made directors overlook it. Human beings are not perfect and although certain mistakes should not be made, people still make them. The reality is that Black people just don't get as many chances as White people do. Black guys fight in the NBA or and they all become thugs and hooligans. White guys fight in the NHL and MLB and its considered normal. There's a 2-minute penalty for a White man, while a Black man's whole career is questioned. Something needs to change. If all people are to be considered equal, then there should be some consistency.
On another note, it is quite sad that people are so ignorant that being Black is compared to being gay. They are both "minorities", but it is totally different. First of all, it is not even proven that people are born gay. It is a lifestyle. You cannot find out if someone is gay from DNA testing. Gay people should still be treated with respect, but don't expect Black people to understand how it feels just because we are both "minorities".
June 29th, 2007 5:10 PM
White people can't stand when any one calls racism because they don't believe it exsits since they don't experience it.
Race probably did have something to do with IW's firing but his attitude didn't help anything. Anyway, I liked seeing a strong black man who didn't act like a clown on tv, a rare sight. so, my choice is unless he is replaced with someone equally as strong, I will read a book when grey is on.
June 29th, 2007 6:16 PM
Changing the Subject:
There is a Mer/Der petition someone has started to keep our favorite couple together if everyone wants to sign it!
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?merder&301o sign it.
June 29th, 2007 7:50 PM
WOW I can't believe there are so many homophobic people in this world. Did the memo that it's 2007 get missed? Gay people are not immoral. Do straight people get to choose who they're attracted to? I think not. I highly doubt that the majority of the gay communinity would choose a lifestyle that is veiwed negatively by so many if the had another option. And why don't they they deserve rights. They're HUMAN!
I know racisim still exists in this word, and that's sad, but I just don't believe it has anything to do with this decision, and no I don't know exactly what happened that day, but IW seems to make himself look worse the more he speaks. He should just focus on hus future and let this die!
June 29th, 2007 8:20 PM
I just don't understand how anyone, including IW, can claim this is all about race. Aren't there two other successful black actors on the show? And the last time I saw her, Shonda Rhimes is black too. It's a slap in the face to these talented people to claim that his contract wasn't renewed because he's black. It's insulting and in this case, a cop out. He's obviously had problems on set and I'm sure the PTB were tired of dealing with a headache. IW had a chance to show some redeeming qualities after all of this, but now, he's just shooting himself and his career in the foot.
June 30th, 2007 1:59 AM
Ollyt, Akinde, twocentsgirl and others on here speaking the truth - please do not bother to try to explain the complexities of race to people who can AND will NEVER understand it...so they dismiss it and pretend that black people who complain they are discriminated against are despicable liars or simply crazy. Black people in the US and Europe KNOW what they have to deal with everyday of their lives so it is a waste of time explaining this to to other because to put themselves in your shoes and truly share your experiences would be to open their eyes and face an uncomfortable and vicious reality. And please, please STOP lumping gays and blacks in the same boat as it trivialises and demeans the horrific history of blacks and their struggles with slavery, apartheid, lynching and segregation.
June 30th, 2007 4:57 AM
Seriously this entire mc chokegate issue was fishy right away from the beginning. Personally I still feel that I don't have enough objective information to decide whose in the wrong and whose in the right here. Naturally Isaiah has enough reason to be upset right now and to present the issue in positive light for him. Yet what if he is speaking the truth and it was never TR he called a the F word. This would shed an entirely diffrent light on the incident and the entire media-coverage thereof. I just feel that the first sources of the incident are from TVGuide and similar sources, so can we really say we got credible unbiased first hand information. I personally tend to feel that I know to little to judge anyone. And frankly speaking right now I couldn't care less I love this show and its characters. I love Burke!!!! It won't be the same show without Isaiah!!! After the seasonfinale with the fighting mountain-men scenes and Shonda's comments on crashing and burning I felt something really bad was still to come but I would have never thought they'd fire Isaiah. I am so sad and still can't quite believe it. I WANT BURKE BACK. I JUST WANT HIM BACK.
June 30th, 2007 8:11 AM
Yeah, okay? If he was fired just because he's a tall black man, then what's the Chief? I'm pretty sure he's a tall black man, too. And Bailey? I'm almost positive that she's black, as well. I'm sick of people blaming things on their race. Grow up- you were fired because of what you have done.
June 30th, 2007 8:15 AM
Whitney....I think that you went to far into saying nigger,that word was never used.
I would like to tell CAT,EMMA,JAMIE,MARY,CHELSEY,NIKKI and the rest of the people that said this whole thing about the race card.I think that race played a big factor, even though he shouldn't of said what he said.He did everthing that they told him to do and yet and still they fired him.They led him on to thinking that if he did those things his job would be saved.I think that anyone would be mad if it was done to them, thinking one thing and they have plans for other things.Sad to say that we do live in a world were color plays a big factor on your life.If your black you have to have light skin and curly hair and only then will you get a better role in HOLLYWOOD.If your dark you are out dated and you may can play in a up coming role as a slave.In the real world it is the same way people copy what they see on tv,light is all most white so its right.Blacks have to sell there sole in HOLLYWOOD thats just what he did and it got him no were.So I agree he needs to shut up and move on,he is making things worst everytime he shows his black face.
June 30th, 2007 8:48 AM
I do not agree that IW was fired merely for being black. Sure he made mistakes but maybe..just maybe things would have turned out differently if he was white. One of the big questions with racial issues applies here - if IW was white actor would things have turned out differently?...Was it harder to forgive IW because he is an outspoken black man?